SoxBlanco Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, Orlando said: The Padres jumping in so late, is extremely annoying. Super annoying to see them mentioned with the Sox as a strong possibility. It’s only super annoying if you believe they are actually a threat. I don’t think there’s any chance SD signs Machado. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote4Pedro Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 9 minutes ago, Orlando said: The Padres jumping in so late, is extremely annoying. Super annoying to see them mentioned with the Sox as a strong possibility. They already have 144 million committed to Hosmer, I really do not see them as a true threat to Machado other than to drive up the price on Jerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 11 minutes ago, iWiN4PreP said: I've seen the sentiment around that if the White Sox sign both Harper and Machado we'd be screwing ourselves over in the future, financially speaking. https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/chicago-white-sox/yearly/payroll/ If we signed Machado for 250/8 years (31.25 per year) and Harper for 320/10 years (32 per year) that only puts us at ~90,000,000 going into next year!! The White Sox are a team that should be around, I don't know, $150,000,000. That leaves us a TON of room to build around, extend, and make finalizing moves, additionally, with the glut of prospects we have, we could make trades for cost-controlled pieces if push come to shove. The only monetary excuse for not getting Manny or Harper (and potentially BOTH) is that the Phillies went haywire and gave one of them a monstrous contract. They have like 3 players on the books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: Just want to state while I’m optimistic we land Machado, if god forbid we lose out on him (and in particular to the Padres) it would be an absolute gut punch. As embarrassing as it is to admit this, I’ve probably spent a good 100+ hours on this site since the offseason began and I’m sure there are many other posters here equally invested. The front office should be cleaned out if they can’t get this done with basically no financial constraints & limited teams competing for his services. Hahn & KW hyped up our expectations and then went out and got his two best friends. If we lost out to the Yankees I would have eventually accepted, but there is zero excuse to be outbid by the Padres. The front office simply need to get this done. Again, I fully believe Manny will be a White Sox and am not trying to get anyone down, but I needed to get that off my chest with some heat that Harper may be signing with the Phillies soon and potentially one whale being off the table. Step away from the ledge pal. All is going to be fine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: They have like 3 players on the books. That's factually incorrect: https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/chicago-white-sox/contracts/ But, I think I get your point -- that they'll need to spend more $$ to fill out the roster in some areas. I see no problem there even with Manny+Harper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Showtime Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 I see that this thread is over 725,000 views. I think this thing is going to hit a million whenever he eventually signs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drgiggles15 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, iWiN4PreP said: That's factually incorrect: https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/chicago-white-sox/contracts/ But, I think I get your point -- that they'll need to spend more $$ to fill out the roster in some areas. I see no problem there even with Manny+Harper. Why do all the players from Manny Buenelos down, say 1 yr -, what does that mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 Just now, drgiggles15 said: Why do all the players from Manny Buenelos down, say 1 yr -, what does that mean? Minimum salary. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: Just want to state while I’m optimistic we land Machado, if god forbid we lose out on him (and in particular to the Padres) it would be an absolute gut punch. As embarrassing as it is to admit this, I’ve probably spent a good 100+ hours on this site since the offseason began and I’m sure there are many other posters here equally invested. The front office should be cleaned out if they can’t get this done with basically no financial constraints & limited teams competing for his services. Hahn & KW hyped up our expectations and then went out and got his two best friends. If we lost out to the Yankees I would have eventually accepted, but there is zero excuse to be outbid by the Padres. The front office simply need to get this done. Again, I fully believe Manny will be a White Sox and am not trying to get anyone down, but I needed to get that off my chest with some heat that Harper may be signing with the Phillies soon and potentially one whale being off the table. I don't think it'd be that big a gut punch. It is sad it's taking this long because I am of the opinion we coulda tried to win the pathetic Central Division if we added some key pieces through free agency. Eloy is going to be THAT good and Moncada is ready to break out. Timmy should have his best year ever and starting busting through to stardom IMO. I'm not a penny pincher but Machado has enough red flags I think it won't be a 'disaster' if we don't sign him. Maybe he'll be worth the cash and the years of cash going to him, but I think he'll be quickly forgotten if we don't get him. As far as cleaning out the front office if we don't get Manny and/or Harper or both ... I think a more egregious sin woulda been not immediately being able to contend after signing Manny. You have Manny and Eloy and Abreu and Moncada and Anderson, cmon, get some pitching and win the fricking division NOW and years to come. That's the only fireable offense. My odds: Sox 50 percent to get Manny. Yankees 45 percent. Others: 5 percent. Gut feeling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 Just now, greg775 said: I don't think it'd be that big a gut punch. It is sad it's taking this long because I am of the opinion we coulda tried to win the pathetic Central Division if we added some key pieces through free agency. Eloy is going to be THAT good and Moncada is ready to break out. Timmy should have his best year ever and starting busting through to stardom IMO. I'm not a penny pincher but Machado has enough red flags I think it won't be a 'disaster' if we don't sign him. Maybe he'll be worth the cash and the years of cash going to him, but I think he'll be quickly forgotten if we don't get him. As far as cleaning out the front office if we don't get Manny and/or Harper or both ... I think a more egregious sin woulda been not immediately being able to contend after signing Manny. You have Manny and Eloy and Abreu and Moncada and Anderson, cmon, get some pitching and win the fricking division NOW and years to come. That's the only fireable offense. My odds: Sox 50 percent to get Manny. Yankees 45 percent. Others: 5 percent. Gut feeling. For the billionth time: who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 1 minute ago, greg775 said: I don't think it'd be that big a gut punch. It is sad it's taking this long because I am of the opinion we coulda tried to win the pathetic Central Division if we added some key pieces through free agency. Eloy is going to be THAT good and Moncada is ready to break out. Timmy should have his best year ever and starting busting through to stardom IMO. I'm not a penny pincher but Machado has enough red flags I think it won't be a 'disaster' if we don't sign him. Maybe he'll be worth the cash and the years of cash going to him, but I think he'll be quickly forgotten if we don't get him. As far as cleaning out the front office if we don't get Manny and/or Harper or both ... I think a more egregious sin woulda been not immediately being able to contend after signing Manny. You have Manny and Eloy and Abreu and Moncada and Anderson, cmon, get some pitching and win the fricking division NOW and years to come. That's the only fireable offense. My odds: Sox 50 percent to get Manny. Yankees 45 percent. Others: 5 percent. Gut feeling. There is zero percent chance manny goes to the Yankees. Why do people still think this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 1 minute ago, soxfan2014 said: For the billionth time: who? Starting pitching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 Just now, greg775 said: Starting pitching. Who would you have signed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 I'm going to go into the fetal position and not leave my house for 20 years if the Sox don't get Machado 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smellysox Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Jake said: If we do land one of the big dogs, I'd like to see us kick the tires on Dallas Keuchel to add a little juice to this express rebuild. I know you have probably heard this how many times before? But every time I see you post I think " oh its Jake from State Farm!" Sorry, I'll be going now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, soxfan2014 said: Who would you have signed? Moustakas plus Grandal and Nelson Cruz on my wish list (no Alonso, no Jon Jay) Then ... Keuchel, Corbin, JA Happ (obviously not all, but some). And on the cheap Gio and Wainwright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarava Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 They're not going to get a chance like this again. 26yo star free agents don't come around too often. Let alone two of them in the same year, and when other teams arent spending much. The Sox must get one of them. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 Just now, greg775 said: Moustakas plus Grandal and Nelson Cruz on my wish list (no Alonso, no Jon Jay) Then ... Keuchel, Corbin, JA Happ (obviously not all, but some). And on the cheap Gio and Wainwright. Sorry I misread your original post as your usual "i hate the rebuild, we should have added guys in free agency" usual posts. My bad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 1 minute ago, soxfan2014 said: Sorry I misread your original post as your usual "i hate the rebuild, we should have added guys in free agency" usual posts. My bad. Yes sir! I despise the rebuild. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 Just now, greg775 said: Yes sir! I despise the rebuild. I meant your usual "we should have spent prior offseasons without giving any names" posts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 12 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: There is zero percent chance manny goes to the Yankees. Why do people still think this? This. It’s either White Sox or Padres. If the Sox lose to the Padres it will sting so bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 Just now, soxfan2014 said: I meant your usual "we should have spent prior offseasons without giving any names" posts. But comment on my list. Those guys IMO woulda been good. Right now even if we add Manny we don't have the starting pitching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarava Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 1 minute ago, greg775 said: But comment on my list. Those guys IMO woulda been good. Right now even if we add Manny we don't have the starting pitching. Personally I don't like your list. I'd rather sign one of the whales this winter, then sign Chris Sale next winter. And our rotation in 2020 consists of : 1) Sale 2) Rodon 3) Cease 4) Kopech 5) Dunning Something like that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarava Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 And I forgot Lopez. There's a lot of options if the Sox can sign a #1 next winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smellysox Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 (edited) 46 minutes ago, SoxBlanco said: It’s only super annoying if you believe they are actually a threat. I don’t think there’s any chance SD signs Machado. San Diego came to the dance late. They're kicking the tires. Only because of the market and its depressed condition. They are the team that's looking for things on sale - clearance. The whitesox have been planning this shopping spree for what 2 years? At least, maybe 3? The sox have done a lot of planning. They have signed his 2 best friends! There is too much invested in him to let some bargain shopping team like the Padres come in at the 11th hour and try to buy him. Sorry San Diego, not happening. Edited February 17, 2019 by smellysox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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