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Machado signs with Padres 10/300


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1 minute ago, GermanSoxFan said:

Exactly. However, two generational talents being available without competition from the usual big spenders is a gift from the heavens that will take pressure off the prospects to perform. Signing Machado would make Hahn's job so much easier.

He also clearly targeted this market as part of the rebuild and routinely fails at execution in free agency so, yeah he deserves to be judged.

If Sox don’t land Machado, do me a favor and make a list of white Sox free agent signings since he took over and cry.

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2 minutes ago, Whitesox27 said:

So you'd rather give a 2-3 year deal to a mediocre player than a long term deal to a superstar in his prime like Machado? That makes sense.

You get more bang for your buck with the mediocre player actually, as crazy as it sounds. Payroll flexibility is a huge asset that is probably more important than any player. 

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1 minute ago, Jack Parkman said:

If you look at player aging curves post-Roids it is almost never a good idea to sign a free agent to a long term deal, even at age 25-26. 

Dude, I rarely post but you are so negative about everything. Do you ever say anything positive? Do you even have a positive thought? Everything is doom and gloom with you.  Have a happy thought once in awhile. It’s okay. 26 year old super stars in their prime are always a good idea. So what if the last 2-3 years might be an overpay. The bulk of the deal will be worth it if they get one

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3 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said:

If you look at player aging curves post-Roids it is  never a good idea to sign a free agent to a long term deal, even at age 25-26. As crazy as it sounds, the data says their best years are already behind them. 

This really isn't true. You're getting 1/2 the career of a player who is on a path that should put them into the Hall of Fame. Things can implode, but they shouldn't. On paper, signing Machado for $500 million would be more effective spending than any FA contract we've signed this decade other than the minimum dollar ones and Abreu.

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5 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said:

If you look at player aging curves post-Roids it is  never a good idea to sign a free agent to a long term deal, even at age 25-26. As crazy as it sounds, the data says their best years are already behind them. 

For players who have put up numbers like these guys, there is a pretty good chance it will work out,

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/harper-machado-betts-and-history/

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1 minute ago, Balta1701 said:

This really isn't true. You're getting 1/2 the career of a player who is on a path that should put them into the Hall of Fame. Things can implode, but they shouldn't. On paper, signing Machado for $500 million would be more effective spending than any FA contract we've signed this decade other than the minimum dollar ones and Abreu.

While that is true, it is ok if you understand what you're getting, which is a depreciating asset. The data says they're both unlikely to have a season as good as their best completed season from here forward. Players don't get better, they only get worse. 

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4 minutes ago, bmags said:

He also clearly targeted this market as part of the rebuild and routinely fails at execution in free agency so, yeah he deserves to be judged.

If Sox don’t land Machado, do me a favor and make a list of white Sox free agent signings since he took over and cry.

David Robertson was alright I guess. ?

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My biggest thing is the Sox could've cooled all the expectations down all winter by down playing our interest and if we got one or the other or both it could be a holy shit moment. Instead they embraced it and promoted their interest to us the fans. Barring an insane offer of like 375 million they better get this done. And considering the Tatis deal they better not lose out again to SD

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5 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said:

You get more bang for your buck with the mediocre player actually, as crazy as it sounds. Payroll flexibility is a huge asset that is probably more important than any player. 

Payroll flexibility only means something if you use it to get a star like Machado. Having payroll flexibility and then signing the Melky Cabrera's and David Robertson's of the world doesn't get you anywhere.

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