fathom Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 1 minute ago, DirtySox said: It's providing some entertaining lunch reading for me at the very least. With how this off-season has gone, I don't know how anyone can take anything at face value right now. And I completely get that not one rumor should be trusted. The two things that worry me the most the last 24 hours though are Moustakas not waiting for the Padres and Yoan at 3rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 1 minute ago, chitownsportsfan said: This is some bullshit. What a fucking clown show. Hey let's fuck with Moncada! Luckily everybody knows the MLB instruction and internal scouting on this club is A+ so I'm sure the transition will go completely smoothly. If the Sox think he's a 3B who am I to argue! Would have rather seen him in CF. Also remember last year when Madrigal was picked and posters said “don’t worry, they have multiple years before they would have to make positional changes”. As balta said, it’s not shocking to see the Sox seemingly planning on rushing a draft pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 1 minute ago, fathom said: And I completely get that not one rumor should be trusted. The two things that worry me the most the last 24 hours though are Moustakas not waiting for the Padres and Yoan at 3rd. Yep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 27 minutes ago, whitesoxwinner said: Yoan's better suited for second though, even if they don't get machado And Madrigal is better suited than Moncada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, Baron said: I mean any way you cut it. This starting pitching staff belongs on a 60-70 win team. No doubt. In 2020 they will have kopech and Cease in it and it will look dramatically different. That's why this year is another rebuilding year even if they sign Machado. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 28 minutes ago, BrianAnderson said: by ripping people off. which is what he's been doing to sox fans for 35 years. lacing his pockets while we get strung along. he's got it down to a science. And yet, here you are. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 1 minute ago, ptatc said: No doubt. In 2020 they will have kopech and Cease in it and it will look dramatically different. That's why this year is another rebuilding year even if they sign Machado. The Sox are by most oddsmakers, ranked as the 16th to 18th best team prior to Machado. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote4Pedro Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, fathom said: And I completely get that not one rumor should be trusted. The two things that worry me the most the last 24 hours though are Moustakas not waiting for the Padres and Yoan at 3rd. Yoan has been practicing at 3rd all winter long like one of merkins tweets said, why not give him a shot at it in spring training in case you don’t land Machado? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said: And yet, here you are. That's part of the science. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 The stadium is going to be a ghosttown if they come up empty. Probably even lower attendance totals than last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 1 minute ago, ptatc said: No doubt. In 2020 they will have kopech and Cease in it and it will look dramatically different. That's why this year is another rebuilding year even if they sign Machado. I'm just curious as to how he'll sell free agents next year if they do miss out this year and go on to get another top 3 draft pick. I think it'll be much harder next year with 3 garbage seasons under our belt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 1 minute ago, SonofaRoache said: The Sox are by most oddsmakers, ranked as the 16th to 18th best team prior to Machado. Is that where the 65-70 win team fits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxwinner Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: And Madrigal is better suited than Moncada. If we're being honest, he's probably better suited at SS than Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: And Madrigal is better suited than Moncada. We don't know that. Right now he's a low A ball guy. With this org's history there is nobody here that should expect him to develop into a solid MLB player, draft stock or not. The Sox moving Moncada off 2B prematurely is par for the course tho. They will prolly call up Madrigal in August when he's been hitting 220 in AA. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 1 minute ago, ptatc said: Is that where the 65-70 win team fits? With Machado and a few other moves, this will be the 3rd and last year of non 85 win baseball. With their weak division and key signings, they can win 82 this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, SonofaRoache said: The Sox are by most oddsmakers, ranked as the 16th to 18th best team prior to Machado. That’s also cause they think the Sox will get big free agent(s) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 1 minute ago, whitesoxwinner said: If we're being honest, he's probably better suited at SS than Tim Yeah, no. Anderson has gold glove tools at SS. There is no one else in the organization who should even be mentioned defensively with Timmy. Granted he has some work to do. but he has also made a lot of progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Just now, chitownsportsfan said: We don't know that. Right now he's a low A ball guy. With this org's history there is nobody here that should expect him to develop into a solid MLB player, draft stock or not. The Sox moving Moncada off 2B prematurely is par for the course tho. They will prolly call up Madrigal in August when he's been hitting 220 in AA. Madrigal will only be hitting .220 if he's hurt. In the minors his batting average is going to stay high because he will put the ball in play and the fielders won't be good enough to get him out. He'll be hitting .275 even if he's doing poorly, unless he's actually hurt. If he's doing "normal" he'll be hitting .300, but that .300 might translate poorly to the big leagues because even if you're good at putting the ball in play in the minors...here's Chris Sale good luck. The thing to watch will be whether there's any punch in his numbers, the ground ball rates and the extra base hit rates. If he's hitting the ball with authority, line drives, in the gaps, piling up the 2b and 3b, then at least he'll have a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 It puts a lot of pressure for Yoan's bat to become great. If not, long term you have an average bat at third, an average bat at SS and hopefully an above average but low power bat at 2nd. You'd need an OF that generates a lot of power. That ain't Lindor/Ramirez on the left side man. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote4Pedro Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 This....back away from the ledge everyone.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Showtime Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, fathom said: And I completely get that not one rumor should be trusted. The two things that worry me the most the last 24 hours though are Moustakas not waiting for the Padres and Yoan at 3rd. Are the Padres a few years away even if they land Manny like the Sox? If so, why would they feel compelled to sign Moustakas either way? I could see the Phillies grabbing him as a back up option if they still needed someone at 3rd. You had the tweet earlier about Manny and the Yankees as well and Simenotti claims talk or gut feeling he still goes to NY. Who knows what is going on. Maybe Manny does go to SD but I'm not sure Moustakas is the lynch pin. Edited February 18, 2019 by Mr. Showtime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said: We don't know that. Right now he's a low A ball guy. With this org's history there is nobody here that should expect him to develop into a solid MLB player, draft stock or not. The Sox moving Moncada off 2B prematurely is par for the course tho. They will prolly call up Madrigal in August when he's been hitting 220 in AA. I'd rather move him now than 2 or 3 years down the road when you can't afford a hole defensively at 3B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Just now, bmags said: It puts a lot of pressure for Yoan's bat to become great. If not, long term you have an average bat at third, an average bat at SS and hopefully an above average but low power bat at 2nd. You'd need an OF that generates a lot of power. That ain't Lindor/Ramirez on the left side man. When Ramirez plays 2B, is there a better middle infield than those 2? Off the top of my head I can't think of any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Mr. Showtime said: Are the Padres a few years away even if they land Manny like the Sox? If so, why would they feel compelled to sign Moustakas either way? I could see the Phillies grabbing him as a back up option if they still needed someone at 3rd. You had the tweet earlier about Manny and the Yankees as well and Simenotti claims talk or got feeling he still goes to NY. Who knows what is going on. Maybe Manny does go to SD but I'm not sure Moustakas is the lynch pin. Moustakas is signing with the Brewers right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GermanSoxFan Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Good thing the Soxtalk admins haven't handed out the kool aid yet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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