joejoesox Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 "Hey dont worry guys, Itll be over soon. Sox like where they stand" lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrathofhahn Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Balta1701 said: With Manny Machado you're right, this is still an 85-90 loss team in 2019. HOWEVER...throw Cease, Kopech, and another year of development into that starting rotation, have some growth out of the bullpen, find a 1b, and have Machado surrounded by Eloy and others at the center of that lineup - you've got a team that's a threat in 2020, and they're set up to be monsters in the following years. If that was the plan I would be fine with it but my gut tells me they would have moved a bunch of guys in the minors to try and win now. In any case Machado is obviously talented but there will be other opportunities in the coming years to add premium talent. Our main focus should be like the Astros lets have a team first then worry about how to add to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 The Padres offer was player-friendly. The Sox offer was team-friendly. Not rocket science here. It was a competitive offer in that it was likely second-best. As usual. I am so, so so angry with this team right now. This is the lowest I've ever felt about this organization and its understanding of how to successfully run a rebuilding franchise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Just now, joesaiditstrue said: "Hey dont worry guys, Itll be over soon. Sox like where they stand" lol "LOL why would Machado want to go to San Diego?" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jack Parkman Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 1 minute ago, xSouthsider2 said: That is what he said... "ISN'T". What he MEANT, though, is, "yeah baby, we will lie to you again about going for premium talent and we will come up short again", but in the mean time, please buy tickets and jerseys and hot dogs at the park so Jerry can pocket MORE money for his grand kids. QFT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smellysox Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 7 minutes ago, BrianAnderson said: there is no doubt in my mind the Sox sign Machado in 2028 to a 2 year deal for like $25mm. This will all come full circle as a joke. Cant wait. Kenny always gets his man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, Orlando said: If the contract could have reached 350 then there was probably a swell opt. That is a good offer. Machado has a standard opt-out after 5 years. Yes the White Sox could have swelled the contract, but he has a higher guarantee and he can still opt-out and have his next deal "Swell" the total well beyond $350 million. The Swell is actually a limitation compared to what he could get with a standard opt-out; both the guarantee and the lack of a team "Swell" option are to Machado's benefit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Just now, joesaiditstrue said: "Hey dont worry guys, Itll be over soon. Sox like where they stand" lol Think of all the fake insiders who actually were giving posters crap. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Dick Allen said: Over 10 years pencils out to $30 million a year. They didn't want to guarantee that. But they did approve 8 for 250 which is more than 30 mil per year. You can rip the team apart, deservedly so but at least get the complaint correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 I dont get it. So you were willing to put 350 million in with incentives but wouldnt just take those out and offer 300? Wtf. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox9 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 The Score broadcast is basically a shit show with them trying to figure out the whole miscommunication between KW and Hahn. We are officially the laughing stock of the MLB. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote4Pedro Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 All of these leaks smell like Jerry was too cheap to guarantee 300 but would be willing to go to 350 with incentives....cheap bastard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Jose Abreu said: This is the first I'm seeing of the Rosenthal Tweet. I'm going to go throw up now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xSouthsider2 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 I won't speak for anyone else, so I will just say "me" here... Not sure who is being laughed at more nationally? The Sox ownership and front office? Or "me" as a Sox fan believing this ownership and front office that they would spend and sign a premium free agent? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Sox could save face with Harper..... Just f it . 10 350 to harper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Waffleson Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 1 minute ago, ChiSox9 said: The Score broadcast is basically a shit show with them trying to figure out the whole miscommunication between KW and Hahn. We are officially the laughing stock of the MLB. Its obvious and terrible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: The White Sox wouldn't guarantee $300 million. You can offer Harper a contract where if he's Babe Ruth, he will get $1 Billion the next 10 years, but if they don't guarantee more than $300 million, there is no chance. Exactly. This is why Kenny and Hahn saying they have the best number is true, but not the best deal. Example If someone offered you a job with these two options, which would you all take? A. 300k a year guaranteed for 10 years. B. 250k guaranteed for 8 years, but can get up to 325k if you meet bonuses you know are unlikely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Just now, JoshPR said: Sox could save face with Harper..... Just f it . 10 350 to harper If we were willing to pay Machado 350 mil, why not do this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GermanSoxFan Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Bargaining for me now. Maybe we can still get Harper... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 1 minute ago, xSouthsider2 said: I won't speak for anyone else, so I will just say "me" here... Not sure who is being laughed at more nationally? The Sox ownership and front office? Or "me" as a Sox fan believing this ownership and front office that they would spend and sign a premium free agent? All of the above is the correct answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Just now, Jose Abreu said: If we were willing to pay Machado 350 mil, why not do this? Exactly! read my post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 1 minute ago, beckham15 said: All of these leaks smell like Jerry was too cheap to guarantee 300 but would be willing to go to 350 with incentives....cheap bastard No doubt. He wanted a contract that would protect the team if Machado sucked or got lazy or injured. Padres offered guaranteed money. The agent and Machado wanted the "prestige" of having the highest guaranteed money. I don't blame them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, ptatc said: But they did approve 8 for 250 which is more than 30 mil per year. You can rip the team apart, deservedly so but at least get the complaint correct. Do you think the AAV or years matter when you are talking about $50 extra million guaranteed? The Sox failed. Runner up in the free agency game wins no consolation prize. Edited February 19, 2019 by Machado2Sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, ptatc said: But they did approve 8 for 250 which is more than 30 mil per year. You can rip the team apart, deservedly so but at least get the complaint correct. Makes me wonder if the 8/$250 is accurate. Just read what came out of KW's mouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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