JoshPR Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 On 1/14/2019 at 1:54 AM, caulfield12 said: What is the current status of AI/autonomous piloting? I imagine very few people in the next decade would feel comfortable getting onto a plane without a pilot, but it's quite possible that this will be a realistic option in the future, as long as there's a back-up mechanism for someone on the ground to land a plane with some type of catastrophic technological/communication failure. Expand An Airbus pretty much flies itself so its almost there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timbo8 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 so evebody here here thinking manny will get a 3rd year opt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 This was tweeted 5 hours ago but unless I missed it, no one posted it: RT @michaeljduarte: Source: Bryce Harper’s meeting with #Phillies Saturday went “very, very, very well,” I’m not sure if Philadelphia has pulled their offer to Machado, but they expect to make an offer to Harper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 An opt out after 3 would make a LOT more sense to the Phillies, especially if they fail to get Nola to extend into his 1st free agency year. For the White Sox, 4 is much more critical. That's ONE big advantage the Phillies have here, they really need him THIS year and NEXT, but they might not want to be tied into that contract if things don't go as well as planned or the Braves become a mini-dynasty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sir Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 On 1/14/2019 at 1:54 AM, caulfield12 said: What is the current status of AI/autonomous piloting? I imagine very few people in the next decade would feel comfortable getting onto a plane without a pilot, but it's quite possible that this will be a realistic option in the future, as long as there's a back-up mechanism for someone on the ground to land a plane with some type of catastrophic technological/communication failure. Expand To be fair, my unprofessional impression is that most commercial air travel these days is handled by autopilot. The humans are there for takeoff, landing, radio comms, disasters, and small adjustments in between. Don't know how I'd feel about boarding a plane completely dependent on computers though. I'd say that's a looooong way off, but who knows- I'm still in a bit of awe when I go into Chili's and pay via a tablet stationed on my own table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 On 1/14/2019 at 2:08 AM, soxfan49 said: This was tweeted 5 hours ago but unless I missed it, no one posted it: RT @michaeljduarte: Source: Bryce Harper’s meeting with #Phillies Saturday went “very, very, very well,” I’m not sure if Philadelphia has pulled their offer to Machado, but they expect to make an offer to Harper. Expand Pulling their offer to show they're 100% onboard the Harper/Boras train? That sounds like perhaps not the wisest decision... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timbo8 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 On 1/14/2019 at 2:09 AM, caulfield12 said: Pulling their offer to show they're 100% onboard the Harper/Boras train? That sounds like perhaps not the wisest decision... Expand agree look like ike they cave in to boras Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 On 1/14/2019 at 2:09 AM, The Sir said: To be fair, my unprofessional impression is that most commercial air travel these days is handled by autopilot. The humans are there for takeoff, landing, radio comms, disasters, and small adjustments in between. Don't know how I'd feel about boarding a plane completely dependent on computers though. I'd say that's a looooong way off, but who knows- I'm still in a bit of awe when I go into Chili's and pay via a tablet stationed on my own table. Expand I read somewhere that on an Airbus a320 the pilot hand flies 14 total minutes. 7 to takeoff and 7 to land 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saufley Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 (edited) On 1/14/2019 at 2:08 AM, soxfan49 said: This was tweeted 5 hours ago but unless I missed it, no one posted it: RT @michaeljduarte: Source: Bryce Harper’s meeting with #Phillies Saturday went “very, very, very well,” I’m not sure if Philadelphia has pulled their offer to Machado, but they expect to make an offer to Harper. Expand Nightengale said the Phillies were going to make a formal offer to Harper this week Edited January 14, 2019 by Saufley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 If the Phillies pulled then the sox need to take advantage and mannys camp needs to cut the shit and get it done with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeGetzUs Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 (edited) On 1/14/2019 at 2:11 AM, Saufley said: Nightengale said the Phillies were going to make an offer to Harper this week Expand No way they will lose any advantage they may have by taking a chance at pulling an offer off the table for the other whale Edited January 14, 2019 by beckham15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiwiSox Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 On 1/14/2019 at 2:11 AM, JoshPR said: I read somewhere that on an Airbus a320 the pilot hand flies 14 total minutes. 7 to takeoff and 7 to land Expand Flying is only one part of the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 On 1/14/2019 at 2:03 AM, beckham15 said: Could you do something along the lines with the writing in his contract that if after the first 3 years he doesn’t opt out his contract it guarantees to put him in the top 3 payroll wise every year there after? Expand That’s kind of how Albert Belle’s contract worked. Basically gave him the right to opt-out if not one of the three highest paid players. I’d be game for something that for sure (after year 3) although I’d probably want it to be top 5 given Trout & Harper at minimum could surpass it in a couple of years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Feels like a reservoir dogs end-scene type situation all parties are pointing a gun at each other But in part, The Phillies and Sox help each other so they can each get one player...and the two agents sort of help each other to try to drive up $$ for the other side (by letting it drag out). So as much as we hate it, dragging out the process helps both sides in the negotiation...players union & owners 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 On 1/14/2019 at 2:18 AM, Chicago White Sox said: That’s kind of how Albert Belle’s contract worked. Basically gave him the right to opt-out if not one of the three highest paid players. I’d be game for something that for sure (after year 3) although I’d probably want it to be top 5 given Trout & Harper at minimum could surpass it in a couple of years. Expand How about an opt out after year 3 if we haven’t made the playoffs yet in 2019, 2020, or 2021? If we do make the postseason at least once in those three years, it kicks in after year 4. Or do you never want to tie wins/losses/team results into the contract of a player if it means a negative outcome of the team means a positive for an individual player? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeGetzUs Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 On 1/14/2019 at 2:18 AM, Chicago White Sox said: That’s kind of how Albert Belle’s contract worked. Basically gave him the right to opt-out if not one of the three highest paid players. I’d be game for something that for sure (after year 3) although I’d probably want it to be top 5 given Trout & Harper at minimum could surpass it in a couple of years. Expand I’m talking about pay raises automatically that would guarantee he stays in the top 3 if he decides to stay and not opt out is what I’m grtting at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 On 1/14/2019 at 2:24 AM, beckham15 said: I’m talking about pay raises automatically that would guarantee he stays in the top 3 if he decides to stay and not opt out is what I’m grtting at Expand Then what happens if three other players have the same deal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Opt out after 3 years is dumb. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 On 1/14/2019 at 2:24 AM, beckham15 said: I’m talking about pay raises automatically that would guarantee he stays in the top 3 if he decides to stay and not opt out is what I’m grtting at Expand Oh gotcha. That to me would be risky, because all it takes is one more crazy contract after Trout & Betts and we could be looking at some reallly ugly years at the end of the deal. At least with the Belle framework, the club has some level of control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 On 1/14/2019 at 2:23 AM, SoxBlanco said: How about an opt out after year 3 if we haven’t made the playoffs yet in 2019, 2020, or 2021? If we do make the postseason at least once in those three years, it kicks in after year 4. Or do you never want to tie wins/losses/team results into the contract of a player if it means a negative outcome of the team means a positive for an individual player? Expand That would totally work for me, although I agree it creates conflicts of interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baker Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 On 1/14/2019 at 2:05 AM, JoshPR said: An Airbus pretty much flies itself so its almost there Expand I’ve heard they’re going to replace all of the co-pilots with German Shepherds....... to bite the pilot if he touches anything ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiwiSox Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 I dont think there will be any opt-outs. These deals are for the long-term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sockin Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Regarding the opt outs, FWIW in Dave’s tweet earlier he did say he would be surprised if Manny wasn’t a “White Sox for life.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsCalledComiskey Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 On 1/13/2019 at 7:20 PM, Heads22 said: Expand FFS it's Sox, not Sock. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxwinner Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 On 1/14/2019 at 3:12 AM, Sockin said: Regarding the opt outs, FWIW in Dave’s tweet earlier he did say he would be surprised if Manny wasn’t a “White Sox for life.” Expand He didnt quite say that and I don't think he'd ever make that assumption Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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