bmags Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 1 minute ago, daggins said: Nice, but solely based on existing public info. Still feelin' bad. I think if you actually laid out all of the public info you'd be feelin pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
centerfieldsixers Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, ptatc said: My aunt won it once in 2004. The only time I've known anyone who won. was starting to think noboby wins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gr8Scott Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 I know this is a Manny thread, but any thoughts on possibly backing off of Manny a little and focusing back towards Harper?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Gr8Scott said: I know this is a Manny thread, but any thoughts on possibly backing off of Manny a little and focusing back towards Harper?? I don’t think there’s a shot they outbid philly for him. And if Harper goes to the nats not sure they can outbid for machado Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxwinner Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, bmags said: I think if you actually laid out all of the public info you'd be feelin pretty good. We should absolutely still be very optimistic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, fathom said: did he say it's just public info? Wouldn't doubt it, just didn't see confirmation. Nah, I guess I shouldn't assume, but why would a pro sports handicapper have sources? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, Gr8Scott said: I know this is a Manny thread, but any thoughts on possibly backing off of Manny a little and focusing back towards Harper?? Harper is a better fit for Philly because he is a lefty. Manny makes more sense at this point, especially after the Alonso/Jay deals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 If you’re gonna back out on Machado now, might as well move on completely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Just now, daggins said: Nah, I guess I shouldn't assume, but why would a pro sports handicapper have sources? Wouldn’t it behoovd then to get inside info? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Just spooked. Hunter, Cespedes, etc. Given the seeming lack of offers, i'd be shocked if another team didn't get involved and try to scoop him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 21 minutes ago, TheTruth05 said: This thread has gone off the rails lol Ever since it broke the site record for posts, it sure has been something! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 31 minutes ago, GermanSoxFan said: I see it's time to dunk on Rick Hahn because of some conflincting tweets, and guess what? I saw Rick Hahn at a grocery store today. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him about the ongoing Manny Machado negotiations. He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?” I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying. The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter. When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly. The Manny IG makes sense now. That coffee was for Rick so this doesn’t happen again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxman72 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Gr8Scott said: I know this is a Manny thread, but any thoughts on possibly backing off of Manny a little and focusing back towards Harper?? It's a constant debate with me and my buddies. I for one want Harper. I believe the franchise needs it for exposure sake. Harper is a great player and he also brings the national exposure. I believe more fans will come out to see Harper vs Machado Manny could be the better player at a more difficult position(s), but his "brand" is no where close to Harper's. Either way, the team would be getting a great player and the Sox would automatically become a love them or hate them team. No middle ground, IMHO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTC Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 For anyone who is struggling with sanity, keep these points in mind: - Huge contracts take a TON of negotiating. And the degree of contract we're talking about here is almost unprecedented in this sport. - In said negotiations, it is the JOB of agents on one side and billion dollar organizations on the other to work out the terms that are most beneficial to them, regardless of how long that takes. - People involved in these negotiations make a LOT of money because they have negotiating skills the average person doesn't have, and the temperament to let things play out. (i.e., the casual fans who thinks they could be a GM really don't have the stomach for it.) - If either the agent or the braintrust of the organization lets the stress level of a bunch of idiots in a discussion forum affect their decisions and/or timing, they should be fired. - In this day and age social media is ubiquitous and is used as one of many negotiation tools. - Social media is ONLY used as a negotiation tool BECAUSE a significant number of people pay attention to it. If no one paid attention, all the social media agent vs. org BS would eventually evaporate. - This could be done tonight or it could take another month. - It is totally in your power to turn the computer off. Your choice. 5 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 1 minute ago, RTC said: For anyone who is struggling with sanity, keep these points in mind: - Huge contracts take a TON of negotiating. And the degree of contract we're talking about here is almost unprecedented in this sport. - In said negotiations, it is the JOB of agents on one side and billion dollar organizations on the other to work out the terms that are most beneficial to them, regardless of how long that takes. - People involved in these negotiations make a LOT of money because they have negotiating skills the average person doesn't have, and the temperament to let things play out. (i.e., the casual fans who thinks they could be a GM really don't have the stomach for it.) - If either the agent or the braintrust of the organization lets the stress level of a bunch of idiots in a discussion forum affect their decisions and/or timing, they should be fired. - In this day and age social media is ubiquitous and is used as one of many negotiation tools. - Social media is ONLY used as a negotiation tool BECAUSE a significant number of people pay attention to it. If no one paid attention, all the social media agent vs. org BS would eventually evaporate. - This could be done tonight or it could take another month. - It is totally in your power to turn the computer off. Your choice. POTW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 1 minute ago, RTC said: For anyone who is struggling with sanity, keep these points in mind: - Huge contracts take a TON of negotiating. And the degree of contract we're talking about here is almost unprecedented in this sport. - In said negotiations, it is the JOB of agents on one side and billion dollar organizations on the other to work out the terms that are most beneficial to them, regardless of how long that takes. - People involved in these negotiations make a LOT of money because they have negotiating skills the average person doesn't have, and the temperament to let things play out. (i.e., the casual fans who thinks they could be a GM really don't have the stomach for it.) - If either the agent or the braintrust of the organization lets the stress level of a bunch of idiots in a discussion forum affect their decisions and/or timing, they should be fired. - In this day and age social media is ubiquitous and is used as one of many negotiation tools. - Social media is ONLY used as a negotiation tool BECAUSE a significant number of people pay attention to it. If no one paid attention, all the social media agent vs. org BS would eventually evaporate. - This could be done tonight or it could take another month. - It is totally in your power to turn the computer off. Your choice. Bravo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTC Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 7 minutes ago, Gr8Scott said: I know this is a Manny thread, but any thoughts on possibly backing off of Manny a little and focusing back towards Harper?? We have too much emotional momentum built up in the Manny direction. Changing direction at this point might violate some of the laws of physics and would likely cause a tear in the space-time continuum. If Manny signs elsewhere, then we can redirect the emotional BTU's. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 15 minutes ago, bmags said: I think if you actually laid out all of the public info you'd be feelin pretty good. Yea then you remember you're a sox fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perfect Vision Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, RTC said: For anyone who is struggling with sanity, keep these points in mind: - Huge contracts take a TON of negotiating. And the degree of contract we're talking about here is almost unprecedented in this sport. - In said negotiations, it is the JOB of agents on one side and billion dollar organizations on the other to work out the terms that are most beneficial to them, regardless of how long that takes. - People involved in these negotiations make a LOT of money because they have negotiating skills the average person doesn't have, and the temperament to let things play out. (i.e., the casual fans who thinks they could be a GM really don't have the stomach for it.) - If either the agent or the braintrust of the organization lets the stress level of a bunch of idiots in a discussion forum affect their decisions and/or timing, they should be fired. - In this day and age social media is ubiquitous and is used as one of many negotiation tools. - Social media is ONLY used as a negotiation tool BECAUSE a significant number of people pay attention to it. If no one paid attention, all the social media agent vs. org BS would eventually evaporate. - This could be done tonight or it could take another month. - It is totally in your power to turn the computer off. Your choice. Only dispute your last point. I'm a junkie now and powerless to turn off this forum. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sockin Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Well they finally got a reputable writer to say it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xSouthsider2 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Forgot to mention... Sorry, I have NO sources. All you will get from me is my opinions. Opinions based on all my years as a Sox fan. During that time a few great times, especially 2005, something I had thought would NEVER happen in my lifetime. But I want MORE WS wins. No more Dybzinski falling on his ass with what would have been the winning run in 83, with Cy Young winner Lamarr Hoyt waiting to pitch game five and put us in the WS in 83. No more allowing those bastards in Toronto to steal Black Jack McDowell pitches and keep us out of the WS in 93. No more having a pitcher with no balls starting game one in 2008 and immediately losing a three run lead that Dewayne Wise gave us with a three run homer in the first. And no more losing two double headers to losing teams in September and blowing a pennant in 1967, and then starting 1968 with 12 straight LOSSES. So, my opinion on Machado? We sign him for over $300 million "IF" Hahn and KW play their cards right. Can't mess this up. I hope they know this. They have put us in too deep to not succeed. We get neither "whale" and we look like losers to the rest of baseball. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sockin Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 HERE WE GO BOYS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 WE WANT MOAR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Just now, Sockin said: HERE WE GO BOYS "Deal could be announced this week or could still fall through." - bleh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 lol may or may not sign with us 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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