MiddleCoastBias Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 People talking about how Machado or Harper might reject all offers and take a 1-year contract to maximize their money next year should remember what Ian Desmond did with the Nationals. Has a huge year, declines a 7/$107M contract extension because he thinks he's worth more, than craters out and never gets anywhere near the contract that he could've. Not to say Machado and Harper will fall off and not be worth money, but it's MIGHTY risky to eschew big contracts now for the chance of a big(ger) contract tomorrow. They would be betting on sustained production and health, and gambling that next year's market will be more favorable - no guarantees. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 48 minutes ago, Orlando said: Lozano killed our constant stream of rumors by silencing Nightengale More like the fake leaks stopped, wherever the source was coming from. It's better this way. Now if we could stop posting twitter randos as "rumors" we'd be even better off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SCCWS Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 57 minutes ago, steveno89 said: I would be shocked if Machado or Harper took 1 year deals and left gigantic amounts of money on the table. If they can't get what they want now, why risk seeing what happens a year from now? I would be shocked also. However, if either one does not like the choice(s) available, then maybe they d take a 1 year. I can see a player gambling on a 1 year if they are completely unhappy with the teams offering them. Agree they may be in the same boat next year, but a player may not want to go to a situation he does not like for 3 or 4 years before he can opt out. Sometimes the player's ego has to be satisfied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Harper & Machado could both insist an opt out after 3/4 years once there's a new CBA is nonnegotiable. Top free agents will continue to find themselves in this predicament until a new CBA is signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 1 hour ago, fathom said: Pretty sure day-to-day schedule was announced the Friday before the last two years. I seem to remember last year it was released that Wednesday or Thursday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsCalledComiskey Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 7 hours ago, Dick Allen said: If the 1 in a trillion comes in and the Sox get outbid by the Pirates, they will deserve everything thrown at them. But really, there is a better chance the Cubs move to Rosemont after they are done renovating than that happening. So you are saying the Chicago Dogs are the mystery team? Machado to the Dogs confirmed! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 1 hour ago, maxjusttyped said: Harper & Machado could both insist an opt out after 3/4 years once there's a new CBA is nonnegotiable. Top free agents will continue to find themselves in this predicament until a new CBA is signed. The CBA won't be negotiated until 4 years have passed. A guy with an opt-out after 3 years could opt out in October and then find themselves stuck with no contract in the middle of a lockout on December 1, with no ability to sign a contract for several months and little time for teams to figure out the new CBA before the season starts. I don't know what preparation the agents are doing for that, but that sounds like a terrible place for a player to be. Conveniently, an opt out after 4 years should fit pretty well for the white sox. I'd do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamhock Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 How about an opt-out that can only be triggered by a work stoppage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 6 hours ago, SonofaRoache said: It's funny how everyone keeps saying these guys want Stanton's deal. But in reality they are getting Stanton's deal. Stanton's AAV is 25 million, which is the same as 7/175. So I think the issue here is not the dollars, but the years of financial security. 9/225 may get things done. Not a perfect comparison, because Stanton signed away three arbitration years as part of the deal. That brought down the AAV to some extent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarava Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 So umm, Richard Roeper's tweet about a pretty pretty pretty good Soxfest isn't looking too likely, eh? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heirdog Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Let’s not jump the gun here. We still have “Wednesday” to look forward to... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightsOnMintSt Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Tomorrow is Wednesday. Do we dare say that we think something will happen tomorrow...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschmaranz Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 1 minute ago, KnightsOnMintSt said: Tomorrow is Wednesday. Do we dare say that we think something will happen tomorrow...? Lets all say it won't, go against the norm around here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 I am beginning to wonder if Manny Machado is a real person. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsCalledComiskey Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 It's already Wednesday in Australia. Let's see this contract! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschmaranz Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: I am beginning to wonder if Manny Machado is a real person. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 50 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: I am beginning to wonder if Manny Machado is a real person. I remember when I thought leaked numbers meant it was close Now I remember that JD Martinez contract was basically well known for two months before he signed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 I have a feeling that nothing will happen soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBJ03 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Sarava said: So umm, Richard Roeper's tweet about a pretty pretty pretty good Soxfest isn't looking too likely, eh? It wasn’t machado related. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 11 minutes ago, CBJ03 said: It wasn’t machado related. He liked a tweet that implied it was Machado/Harper related Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Sarava said: So umm, Richard Roeper's tweet about a pretty pretty pretty good Soxfest isn't looking too likely, eh? You not digging Yonder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 19 minutes ago, CBJ03 said: It wasn’t machado related. any chance you know why they're so late in getting the softest daily schedules out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBJ03 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, fathom said: any chance you know why they're so late in getting the softest daily schedules out? I don’t. I’ll ask around tomorrow and see if there’s an answer I can get for you. My guess is I won’t be able to but I’ll ask. I do know logistically on our end things are a little different this year so that could be part of it. But I don’t know. Edited January 23, 2019 by CBJ03 Update info 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 24 minutes ago, CBJ03 said: It wasn’t machado related. Any idea what it was actually about then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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