Orlando Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 On 1/24/2019 at 4:50 PM, mqr said: I read it as him agreeing with WSD. Regardless, I try not to pay to much attention to what White Sox State TV has to say. Expand I assumed that he was saying WSD was wrong because in the past he has quickly gone on record to say Bruce was right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 In the context of player salaries, especially as relates to Machado and how much the Sox should or can pay him, Fangraphs had an interesting report on the Padres financial situation excerpted from the attached SDU article https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/padres/sd-sp-padres-debt-finances-payroll-fowler-seidler-owners-0118-story.html . Lots of fascinating details but, similar to the Braves finances and most businesses in general, revenue from non-one time sources (i.e.MLBAM sale) drive the amount of proceeds to be used for player salaries. The ratio used by the Padres is approximately 1/3, meaning a third of total revenue allocated to salaries. Since most teams are privately held, its difficult to determine total revenue. Nor can we anticipate how much, if any, JR will spend (further invest) in anticipation a future return, resulting from increased revenue. I recommend reading it if you have time. Might provide a bit of context rather than just tossing out AAV/years as to how much Sox should pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiebs13 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 On 1/24/2019 at 4:53 PM, Orlando said: I assumed that he was saying WSD was wrong because in the past he has quickly gone on record to say Bruce was right. Expand possibly. who knows? but, that was before heyman, rosenthal, & lozano pretty much said bruce and bob were wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSexy23 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 (edited) AJ Pollock to the dodgers....not sure if this means they are out on Harper. The dominos keep falling Edited January 24, 2019 by BigSexy23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiebs13 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 On 1/24/2019 at 5:37 PM, BigSexy23 said: AJ Pollock to the dodgers....not sure if this means they are out on Harper. The dominos keep falling Expand maybe pederson getting moved is imminent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSexy23 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 On 1/24/2019 at 5:39 PM, Kiebs13 said: maybe pederson getting moved is imminent? Expand Also a huge possibility Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EloyJenkins Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 (edited) On 1/24/2019 at 5:37 PM, BigSexy23 said: AJ Pollock to the dodgers....not sure if this means they are out on Harper Expand Yes. Yes it does. If the nationals are out on him too...the dream of getting both is actually in reach...albeit still almost impossible. Huge news. And Pederson probably coming our way today also. Edited January 24, 2019 by EloyJenkins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSexy23 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Terms of the Pollock deal have not been published. I will update when I get the news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiebs13 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 On 1/24/2019 at 5:39 PM, BigSexy23 said: Also a huge possibility Expand this could be the domino to make everything fall. takes the dodgers out of harper most likely. it forces their hand on pederson. with them out on harper it becomes all the more likely that harper ends up in Philly and consequently manny on the south side. This makes me a little hopeful that things are beginning to move! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSexy23 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Dodgers fans complaining that Puig is better than Pollock but I strongly disagree if Pollock is healthy he is at least a 5.0 WAR player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EloyJenkins Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 On 1/24/2019 at 5:42 PM, BigSexy23 said: Dodgers fans complaining that Puig is better than Pollock but I strongly disagree if Pollock is healthy he is at least a 5.0 WAR player Expand hence the complaints. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSexy23 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 (edited) Possible deal may be 5 year/60 mil for Pollock Edited January 24, 2019 by BigSexy23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiebs13 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 (edited) This could be a steal. damn EDIT: others reporting there are escalators and opt outs so it could be more. Edited January 24, 2019 by Kiebs13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightsOnMintSt Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 I would've loved that deal for the White Sox. Seems like a steal to me. Have to think that this means the Dodgers are out on Harper, and we could see a Pederson move shortly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSexy23 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 (edited) Relief Pitcher Brad Brach to the Cubs Edited January 24, 2019 by BigSexy23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 On 1/24/2019 at 5:58 PM, BigSexy23 said: Relief Pitcher Brad Brach to the Cubs Expand There is an "offseason moves" thread.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bmags Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Well, would those players accept being signed in their 33-36 seasons at 12-15million per? I think teams would extend that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perfect Vision Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 On 1/24/2019 at 6:05 PM, aeichhor said: Expand With the likely swellopt provisions, I think both players will end up with 9-10 year deals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREEDY Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 On 1/24/2019 at 6:05 PM, aeichhor said: Expand I think it has more to do with the opt-outs they are likely demanding. I don't know if it is even quantifiable how valuable a 4 year opt-out for Harpchado could be on a 10yr+ 300+ million dollar deal. It is the Heyward deal times two. The opt-out essentially makes the deal "you can have me for 4 years 120 million, but if I underperform you automatically owe me another 180 million". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 On 1/24/2019 at 6:05 PM, aeichhor said: Expand Honestly, pretty stupid tweet. That's comparing apples and oranges. One player is currently 26 and signing him to a 10 year deal with an insane AAV of 30 million provides extreme risk at the back end of the deal. The other players are already performing at age 30 season and taking a significantly smaller AAV to get it done. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peppers312 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 i would love to have Keuchel in our rotation, but i don't see us acquiring him. he made $13M last season and i just don't see us spending anywhere near that to sign him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EL1 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 On 1/24/2019 at 6:34 PM, peppers312 said: i would love to have Keuchel in our rotation, but i don't see us acquiring him. he made $13M last season and i just don't see us spending anywhere near that to sign him. Expand If it would only cost that much it would be a steal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smellysox Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 (edited) On 1/24/2019 at 6:05 PM, aeichhor said: Expand Because Jim most teams want to have money to sign their own players after 7 years of control to extensions! When you're talking about the Sox, Padres, braves, Yankees, and Astros - that's what you're dealing with. That's why you can go sign the 30 and over to 3-4 year deals at whatever you can afford and the market dictates. Edited January 24, 2019 by smellysox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 On 1/24/2019 at 6:05 PM, aeichhor said: Expand Jim Bowden is such a dope 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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