Ross Gload Fan Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 If anyone knows about striking out, it's Yoan. Jokes aside, I'm glad he is trying for us here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 Never thought this would drAg on this long. Still think it’s 50/50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smellysox Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 On 1/27/2019 at 8:35 PM, Chicago White Sox said: I still think Machado is ours to lose at this point, but San Diego would be the absolute worst team to beat us out for his services, at least for our front office. Manny playing next to #hewhoshallnotbenamed would be a constant reminder of their failures. Expand Wouldn't that be a kick in the junk! And wait till the interleague games against them. What fun. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 On 1/27/2019 at 8:35 PM, shipps said: FO’s are almost always extremely self aware and totally understand that manipulating the fans expectations are very important. If Hahn had a shadow of doubt that it would get done I would think he would have been smart enough to never give an inkling of real confidence that it would eventually get done. He had a few moments in the past couple days that he did seem all to cocky about it. He knows that the slightest hint can lead the fan base to have high expectations. If they don’t sign him Hahn really messed this up even worse than what it had to be. Expand yep, if you take a step back, some of the comments would almost be trolling that have been made by Hahn and Alonso. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 (edited) On 1/27/2019 at 8:37 PM, Ross Gload Fan said: If anyone knows about striking out, it's Yoan. Jokes aside, I'm glad he is trying for us here. Expand Call me crazy, but I think Moncada and Giolito are going to show Sox fans why they were once top 3 prospects in the game this year. Did anyone else listen to LG on the Score yesterday? He says he can still hit 97 when his mechanics aren't out of whack. It is painfully obvious he's been fighting his delivery for the better part of 3 seasons since Washington tinkered with it. Perfect example of if it isn't broken, don't fix it. It also sounded like he had a healthy amount of confidence in his ability and has the right attitude about last year. He also mentioned that he's seeing a sports psychologist. Edited January 27, 2019 by Jack Parkman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiwiSox Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 It's becoming clear to me that these situations are going to drag into the regular season without being resolved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Gload Fan Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 On 1/27/2019 at 8:46 PM, KiwiSox said: It's becoming clear to me that these situations are going to drag into the regular season without being resolved. Expand Your takes are so dramatic and baffling to me. Keep them up, they keep me on my toes lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 I think we actually offered him a 280 million dollar deal and told him to shop around and come back with his best offer. I just don't see anyway he is face timing with our guys at Sox Fest if there wasnt good vibes for both sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smellysox Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 On 1/27/2019 at 8:42 PM, smellysox said: Wouldn't that be a kick in the junk! And wait till the interleague games against them. What fun. Expand And then those 2 facing Nova. Not pretty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 On 1/27/2019 at 8:48 PM, SonofaRoache said: I think we actually offered him a 280 million dollar deal and told him to shop around and come back with his best offer. I just don't see anyway he is face timing with our guys at Sox Fest if there wasnt good vibes for both sides. Expand I truly believe he wants to play for the Sox (assuming the Yankees are out), but the money has to be right. Just got to hope we’re prepared to match any other bids that come in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xSouthsider2 Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 On 1/27/2019 at 8:43 PM, Jack Parkman said: Call me crazy, but I think Moncada and Giolito are going to show Sox fans why they were once top 3 prospects in the game this year. Did anyone else listen to LG on the Score yesterday? He says he can still hit 97 when his mechanics aren't out of whack. It is painfully obvious he's been fighting his delivery for the better part of 3 seasons since Washington tinkered with it. Perfect example of if it isn't broken, don't fix it. It also sounded like he had a healthy amount of confidence in his ability and has the right attitude about last year. He also mentioned that he's seeing a sports psychologist. Expand Our players are seeing psychologists? I will need a psychologist if Sox do not sign Machado and/or Harper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pal Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 On 1/27/2019 at 8:46 PM, KiwiSox said: It's becoming clear to me that these situations are going to drag into the regular season without being resolved. Expand Brother, I will make a $100 bet that doesnt happen. Loser meets winner at winners favorite watering hole with the $$$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 On 1/27/2019 at 8:54 PM, Chicago White Sox said: I truly believe he wants to play for the Sox (assuming the Yankees are out), but the money has to be right. Just got to hope we’re prepared to match any other bids that come in. Expand And the opt outs have to be right. I’m guessing Manny’s side is asking for an opt out after 3 years, and we aren’t giving him that. That’s where the creative clauses come into play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 On 1/27/2019 at 8:43 PM, Jack Parkman said: Call me crazy, but I think Moncada and Giolito are going to show Sox fans why they were once top 3 prospects in the game this year. Did anyone else listen to LG on the Score yesterday? He says he can still hit 97 when his mechanics aren't out of whack. It is painfully obvious he's been fighting his delivery for the better part of 3 seasons since Washington tinkered with it. Perfect example of if it isn't broken, don't fix it. It also sounded like he had a healthy amount of confidence in his ability and has the right attitude about last year. He also mentioned that he's seeing a sports psychologist. Expand Moncada, sure. Giolito hasn't been trending upward for nearly 4 years now. His fastball was his best pitch and he's lost it. Mechanics arent pulling 5 mph off per pitch. I am not a giolito believer. I certainly hope I'm wrong but for as optimistic as I am about Lopez and his progress last year (which was huge the past two months) I am as pessimistic about giolito. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smellysox Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 (edited) On 1/27/2019 at 8:58 PM, SoxBlanco said: And the opt outs have to be right. I’m guessing Manny’s side is asking for an opt out after 3 years, and we aren’t giving him that. That’s where the creative clauses come into play. Expand Yeah I agree. Right now I think it's all about the opt outs. Hahn even said this weekend that its more than the financial considerations. Edited January 27, 2019 by smellysox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 On 1/27/2019 at 9:03 PM, smellysox said: Yeah I agree. Right now I think it's all about the opt outs. Hahn even said this weekend that its more than financial considerations. Expand Yep. And right after that, a story leaks about how the Padres are offering a deal with an opt out after three years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 On 1/27/2019 at 8:32 PM, southsider2k5 said: Expand Face time = base time Those three intend on spending a lot of time as the 1st and 2nd basemen. They want Machado as the 3rd baseman. He's signing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 (edited) On 1/27/2019 at 9:02 PM, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Moncada, sure. Giolito hasn't been trending upward for nearly 4 years now. His fastball was his best pitch and he's lost it. Mechanics arent pulling 5 mph off per pitch. I am not a giolito believer. I certainly hope I'm wrong but for as optimistic as I am about Lopez and his progress last year (which was huge the past two months) I am as pessimistic about giolito. Expand If you watched him pitch last season it was obvious mechanics cost him 5mph. When he was staying closed in his delivery he was hitting mid 90s (topping at 97) regularly, when he was out of sync and flying open he was 89-92. I know I'm beating a dead horse with the board on him, but if Giolito wasn't completely broken he wouldn't have been available in trade. He was obviously a project. Edited January 27, 2019 by Jack Parkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saufley Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 On 1/27/2019 at 9:10 PM, Quin said: Face time = base time Those three intend on spending a lot of time as the 1st and 2nd basemen. They want Machado as the 3rd baseman. He's signing! Expand I wish I had reason to be as optimistic as you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 On 1/27/2019 at 8:48 PM, SonofaRoache said: I think we actually offered him a 280 million dollar deal and told him to shop around and come back with his best offer. I just don't see anyway he is face timing with our guys at Sox Fest if there wasnt good vibes for both sides. Expand He's face timing his brother in law. No matter the team he signs with, he wouldn't begin to hate his brother in law over it. I wouldn't think who he face times makes any difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 Perhaps the Machado camp thought that they could use Sox Fest as leverage to pressure the front office to up the offer, in time for the Fan Fest. Now that it's over, and the Sox didn't cave, maybe they will be more willing to come to terms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 On 1/27/2019 at 9:16 PM, soxfan49 said: He's face timing his brother in law. No matter the team he signs with, he wouldn't begin to hate his brother in law over it. I wouldn't think who he face times makes any difference. Expand Yonder wouldn't be face timing him right before the ceremonies if he didn't think they had a shot at him. There's absolutely no reason for him to do that and share it with the public then. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 On 1/27/2019 at 9:12 PM, Jack Parkman said: If you watched him pitch last season it was obvious mechanics cost him 5mph. When he was staying closed in his delivery he was hitting mid 90s (topping at 97) regularly, when he was out of sync and flying open he was 89-92. I know I'm beating a dead horse with the board on him, but if Giolito wasn't completely broken he wouldn't have been available in trade. He was obviously a project. Expand His max last year was 96.7 with an average fastball at 92.6. That is standard difference between max and average. Lucas does not throw 97 mph anymore consistently - it's not his mechanics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 On 1/27/2019 at 9:19 PM, fathom said: Yonder wouldn't be face timing him right before the ceremonies if he didn't think they had a shot at him. There's absolutely no reason for him to do that and share it with the public then. Expand His brother in law can facetime with him whenever he wants. Machado isn't going to start to ignore his facetime requests if he starts to lean toward Philly or SD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EL1 Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 On 1/27/2019 at 8:54 PM, xSouthsider2 said: Our players are seeing psychologists? I will need a psychologist if Sox do not sign Machado and/or Harper. Expand From my understanding almost all sports teams have a sport psychologist on staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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