southsider2k5 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, fathom said: yep, would much rather see him in CF than at 3B. With all of his low IQ play and reads at 2B, the danger of failure is MUCH greater in CF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 17 minutes ago, fathom said: yep, would much rather see him in CF than at 3B. I think his tools profile much better in CF than at 3B. Plus moving him there opens up 2B for Yolmer (and eventually Madrigal) & removes our weakest link in Engel, allowing us to put our optimal group of position players on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 9 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: I think his tools profile much better in CF than at 3B. Plus moving him there opens up 2B for Yolmer (and eventually Madrigal) & removes our weakest link in Engel, allowing us to put our optimal group of position players on the field. Anything that includes Yolmer in the everyday lineup is not optimal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 12 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: I think his tools profile much better in CF than at 3B. Plus moving him there opens up 2B for Yolmer (and eventually Madrigal) & removes our weakest link in Engel, allowing us to put our optimal group of position players on the field. Yolmer is a nice utility guy. He's not a regular. Should be a platoon option at best. He'd be awesome as a super sub if Manny comes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Just now, chitownsportsfan said: Yolmer is a nice utility guy. He's not a regular. Should be a platoon option at best. He'd be awesome as a super sub if Manny comes. Exactly. Yolmer is fine if pressed into duty for 2 weeks during a DL stint. But he was exposed last year player everyday. I'd rather give Rondon a chance at 3B or 2B next year if Machado goes elsewhere, or forwhatever reason we move Moncada to 3B (or CF, which I don't see happening). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 15 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Anything that includes Yolmer in the everyday lineup is not optimal. You’d rather have Engel in CF vs. Yolmer at 2B? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Id rather have LEURY THE GOAT in CF 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Just now, Chicago White Sox said: You’d rather have Engel in CF vs. Yolmer at 2B? Yes. I'd RATHER both be on the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 13 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said: Yolmer is a nice utility guy. He's not a regular. Should be a platoon option at best. He'd be awesome as a super sub if Manny comes. I don’t disagree, but what does that make Engel then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 14 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Exactly. Yolmer is fine if pressed into duty for 2 weeks during a DL stint. But he was exposed last year player everyday. I'd rather give Rondon a chance at 3B or 2B next year if Machado goes elsewhere, or forwhatever reason we move Moncada to 3B (or CF, which I don't see happening). I’m talking about if we get Machado. If we miss on him, I agree I’d rather give Rondon the at-bats than Yolmer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said: I don’t disagree, but what does that make Engel then? 4th OF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 1 minute ago, ptatc said: 4th OF. I guess my point is Yolmer is probably 1.5 win player with everyday at-bats, whereas Engel is replacement level. Based on the parts we have today, replacing Engel with Yolmer is an upgrade. I’d be open to a more substantial upgrade, but there is no question Engel is our worst starter and Yolmer our best guy currently off the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: I guess my point is Yolmer is probably 1.5 win player with everyday at-bats, whereas Engel is replacement level. Based on the parts we have today, replacing Engel with Yolmer is an upgrade. I’d be open to a more substantial upgrade, but there is no question Engel is our worst starter and Yolmer our best guy currently off the bench. Yea one guy is a solid backup tolerable starter the other is a borderline MLB player. If Engel's defensive improvement in the 2nd half wasn't a mirage then maybe he can stick in MLB but he's proven nothing except that Chicago has a really shitty 25 man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 I asked the Shane guy strait forward if he was trolling or his source was wrong. He replied to me. Take it with a grain of salt but he’s sticking to his guns. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timbo8 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 is the shane y2jimmy trust as well 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, Orlando said: I asked the Shane guy strait forward if he was trolling or his source was wrong. He replied to me. Take it with a grain of salt but he’s sticking to his guns. Just a little off hopefully means Wednesday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, Orlando said: I asked the Shane guy strait forward if he was trolling or his source was wrong. He replied to me. Take it with a grain of salt but he’s sticking to his guns. One would think that if Machado and the Sox were hypothetically moving towards finalizing a deal that there would be far more smoke? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Just now, steveno89 said: One would think that if Machado and the Sox were hypothetically moving towards finalizing a deal that there would be far more smoke? I feel like things tend to go real quiet for us when we’re close on a deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 What did this Shane fellow say? I must have missed that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Just now, Chicago White Sox said: I feel like things tend to go real quiet for us when we’re close on a deal. Yeah this always seems to be the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Just now, Chicago White Sox said: I feel like things tend to go real quiet for us when we’re close on a deal. Generally speaking? Yes. But with a guy like Machado/Harper I feel the National media guys would be all over a scoop like that signing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuliusO1274 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 34 minutes ago, bmags said: Id rather have LEURY THE GOAT in CF Not even joking Leury is the better option. Leury has had a much better WAR with less games played the past 2 seasons yet somehow the consensus is that Engel is the best option because he makes a couple flashy catchers per year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Just now, JuliusO1274 said: Not even joking Leury is the better option. Leury has had a much better WAR with less games played the past 2 seasons yet somehow the consensus is that Engel is the best option because he makes a couple flashy catchers per year. Leury can't stay healthy enough to be a real option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, steveno89 said: One would think that if Machado and the Sox were hypothetically moving towards finalizing a deal that there would be far more smoke? Honestly there wasn't much smoke on colome, nova, Alonso, Herrera, or mccann. Just kinda out of the blue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Just now, aeichhor said: Honestly there wasn't much smoke on colome, nova, Alonso, Herrera, or mccann. Just kinda out of the blue Those are far more minor moves in the grand scheme of things though. Machado/Harper have the National beat guys all over their rumor mill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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