ChiSox59 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Capital G said: Looks like Philly will be upping their offer to MM. http://rotoworld.com/headlines/mlb/595466/philly-to-up-manny-machado-offer-this-week?ls=roto:LA:topheadlines This shit needs to end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 On RLR today, Dave said that the Sox current offer of 7 years, 245-250 million currently has us in the lead for Machado, but his contact told him not to tweet it 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Jose Abreu said: On RLR today, Dave said that the Sox current offer of 7 years, 245-250 million currently has us in the lead for Machado, but his contact told him not to tweet it So his contact is ok with him saying it out loud in a podcast? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticky Stuff Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Jose Abreu said: On RLR today, Dave said that the Sox current offer of 7 years, 245-250 million currently has us in the lead for Machado, but his contact told him not to tweet it I just don’t see why Machado and his agent would only want a 7 year deal? If there are no opt outs he’ll be 32-33. What kind of deal is he really looking at after that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, soxfan2014 said: So his contact is ok with him saying it out loud in a podcast? I should clarify, I think the contact said to hold off on tweeting it for a few hours or something like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 minute ago, DH in the NL said: I just don’t see why Machado and his agent would only want a 7 year deal? If there are no opt outs he’ll be 32-33. What kind of deal is he really looking at after that? He elaborated and said he predicts the winning bid to be more like 8/270 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said: He elaborated and said he predicts the winning bid to be more like 8/270 I would hope the Sox step up and add the 8th year to get it done if that's the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticky Stuff Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said: He elaborated and said he predicts the winning bid to be more like 8/270 In general or with the Sox? If the Phillies go 10 /$325 I think his prediction is meaningless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, DH in the NL said: In general or with the Sox? If the Phillies go 10 /$325 I think his prediction is meaningless. I interpreted it as in general but not sure. This all starts around the 36:10 mark of today's episode 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peavy44 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Does dave WSD really know the offer why would he get this info it would be secret not given out to anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 7 years/$245m is an even $35m a year. Go 8 years/$280. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 minute ago, peavy44 said: Does dave WSD really know the offer why would he get this info it would be secret not given out to anyone. I mean, it's not like it would be a secret to other teams. The agent talking to other teams would reveal what the current offers are so the other team can offer more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 minute ago, peavy44 said: Does dave WSD really know the offer why would he get this info it would be secret not given out to anyone. He (somehow) has legitimate sources. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roughneck Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 10 minutes ago, DH in the NL said: I just don’t see why Machado and his agent would only want a 7 year deal? If there are no opt outs he’ll be 32-33. What kind of deal is he really looking at after that? It's not about what they want, but what teams will agree to. And hitting the market again at 33 would be a lot better for him than hitting it at 36. It's riskier, but maybe instead of a hypothetical $100 mil over years 8-10, he could sign a new contract from age 33-37 which would pay him $150 mil. 4 minutes ago, DH in the NL said: In general or with the Sox? If the Phillies go 10 /$325 I think his prediction is meaningless. Why would the Phillies LEEROY JENKINS by giving Machado 2 years and $85 mil more than the next highest offer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peavy44 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 21 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said: On RLR today, Dave said that the Sox current offer of 7 years, 245-250 million currently has us in the lead for Machado, but his contact told him not to tweet it That's a pretty weak offer to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 minute ago, peavy44 said: That's a pretty weak offer to me. It would make him the richest player on an AAV basis in the history of baseball. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peavy44 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 8 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: He (somehow) has legitimate sources. Ok then if that's the case it should be over soon then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peavy44 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: It would make him the richest player on an AAV basis in the history of baseball. If yankees only at 4 years $150M then ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticky Stuff Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Roughneck said: It's not about what they want, but what teams will agree to. And hitting the market again at 33 would be a lot better for him than hitting it at 36. It's riskier, but maybe instead of a hypothetical $100 mil over years 8-10, he could sign a new contract from age 33-37 which would pay him $150 mil. Why would the Phillies LEEROY JENKINS by giving Machado 2 years and $85 mil more than the next highest offer? My opinion is nobody is going to give Machado at 33 years old a $150 mil deal for 4 years. That would be insane. Nobody knows what the “highest” bid is right now. It’s all opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Just now, peavy44 said: If yankees only at 4 years $150M then ya. No. 7 years and $245M is $35M in average annual value (AAV). That would be the highest AAV ever given to a player in the history of baseball. It is not a weak offer, and that has nothing to do with what the Yankees offer is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HakunaMachado Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 WSD just eyeballed. MM? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southwest Sider Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 minute ago, HakunaMachado said: WSD just eyeballed. MM? Its for the goose island field goal challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 12 minutes ago, peavy44 said: Does dave WSD really know the offer why would he get this info it would be secret not given out to anyone. He screenshots were broken. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sockin Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, HakunaMachado said: WSD just eyeballed. MM? He quoted the Goose Island tweet so its about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roughneck Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, DH in the NL said: My opinion is nobody is going to give Machado at 33 years old a $150 mil deal for 4 years. That would be insane. Nobody knows what the “highest” bid is right now. It’s all opinions. I meant season 33-37, which is 5 years. If he's hitting 35-40 homers a year at that point and giving good defense at 3B (even if no longer elite), it's not out of the ream of possibility that the market at that point could give him $30 mil a year. Either way, he'd likely get more AAV for ages 36-37 if he signed 7 then 5 year deals, rather than a 10 and a 2. And a 7 year deal would like give a higher AAV than 10, so he could make more overall if he stays healthy. So it's not *all* bad for him. But yes, he is going to take the best offer overall. We don't know what any teams are really offering, but nothing we know would lead us to believe the Phillies are offering anything close to 10/$325. Edited January 8, 2019 by Roughneck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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