daggins Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Just now, Bigsoxhurt35 said: Yeah, no reason to panic right now. Is he really going to the Padres? Lol I mean, he might. He might not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Bigsoxhurt35 said: Yeah, no reason to panic right now. Is he really going to the Padres? Lol Yeah they really suck....oh...wait...what team are we again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Waffleson Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, GermanSoxFan said: It's the beard isn't it? ? Bobs got such a masculine figure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 34 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: San Diego guy said that the Padres can get around the tax issue by giving him a signing bonus. Machado is a FL resident and any SB would be subject to FL taxes, which s zero. They better give him a $250M signing bonus then or else they can’t really get around it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Whitesox27 said: Payroll flexibility only means something if you use it to get a star like Machado. Having payroll flexibility and then signing the Melky Cabrera's and David Robertson's of the world doesn't get you anywhere. What would you do: If you have 2-3 massive holes in your roster is it better to get a superstar at one of those positions, and ride with the other two holes or should you fill them all with above average players for the same amount of money, should they be available? I'd argue the latter is more efficient and would lead to a better outcome in terms of wins. Would you rather have three 2.5 win players or 1 7 win player and 2 0-1 win players? Edited February 18, 2019 by Jack Parkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Which happens first: 25,000 posts on this thread, or Manny signs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Waffleson Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Just now, Dam8610 said: Which happens first: 25,000 posts on this thread, or Manny signs? I think this is about over brother Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 I dunno 8/240 but with a 20MM signing bonus probably nixes any tax differences with a similar offer from the Sox. The Sox can get around that, of course, by upping the offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Jack Parkman said: What is crazy is that if you have 2-3 massive holes in your roster is it better to get a superstar at one of those positions, and ride with the other two holes or should you fill them all with above average players for the same amount of money, should they be available? I'd argue the latter is more efficient and would lead to a better outcome. I would describe your plan as the 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2015, and 2016 White Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 damn. It’s hitting numbers I’m legitimately concerned Sox will walk away from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 We have family and his best friend on our team. ✅ tax advantage ✅ location advantage so his family can watch him regularly on tv ✅ we have been there from the start showing him he is our Number one priority ✅ What else I am missing that is to our advantage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Just now, Ben Waffleson said: I think this is about over brother I've heard that too many times this offseason to believe it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Yeah the Sox aren't doing 280. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Waffleson Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Just now, bmags said: damn. It’s hitting numbers I’m legitimately concerned Sox will walk away from. JR wont do 35m aav for manny. Hed just shift gears to bryce at that price. better player to market anyways Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 280/8 is crazy. 35 mil a year. If that’s the case, I can’t even blame the Sox for losing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GermanSoxFan Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: What would you do: If you have 2-3 massive holes in your roster is it better to get a superstar at one of those positions, and ride with the other two holes or should you fill them all with above average players for the same amount of money, should they be available? I'd argue the latter is more efficient and would lead to a better outcome in terms of wins. Would you rather have 3 2.5 win players or 1 7 win player? One 7 War player and it's not even close. 2-3 WAR players are ubiquuitous, 7 WAR players are once a generation type talents. WAR doesn'T work on such a linear scale btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Balta1701 said: I would describe your plan as the 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2015, and 2016 White Sox. Incorrect. The 2010-2016 Sox had more holes than they could afford to fill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dam8610 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 1 minute ago, bmags said: damn. It’s hitting numbers I’m legitimately concerned Sox will walk away from. If they weren't willing to go 8/280, this was over a long time ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, Baron said: Yeah they really suck....oh...wait...what team are we again? I didn’t mean to come off like we’re the fucking Yankees. But he’s really going to sign with SD? I don’t buy it. His friends are here, bigger market, easier division, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Just now, Bigsoxhurt35 said: I didn’t mean to come off like we’re the fucking Yankees. But he’s really going to sign with SD? I don’t buy it. His friends are here, bigger market, easier division, etc. 280 for 8 makes alot of things easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Orlando said: 280/8 is crazy. 35 mil a year. If that’s the case, I can’t even blame the Sox for losing. And this is why you don’t leave the door open for some owner to get excited about the possibility of adding a superstar and talk himself into spending more than people thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, bmags said: damn. It’s hitting numbers I’m legitimately concerned Sox will walk away from. So the real offer is 8/240, and Lozano wants people to believe that it’s 8/280. Thanks Bob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 You guys are buying the 8/280 offer like it's NOT a ploy to get Sox to pay up. WHEN IT IS. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox9 Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Correct me if I’m wrong, if the Sox offered a signing bonus it would be taxes just the same as SD’s signing bonus - 0% since he STILL lives in FL. So I really don’t see the advantage there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrankinSox Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 This deal is going down in the next 24 hours. Last minute push by Lozano to raise the bidding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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