Balta1701 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said: That's a really low amount for a 1 yr. deal. He really had no market. This is totally expected for him. He was a replacement level player last year and missed like 1/2 the season. He didn't earn more than this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
he gone. Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 11 minutes ago, elrockinMT said: I am not real good pleased with us not trying to keep Avi especially when I am pretty sure the Sox are going to have an open spot or two in the OF. I don’t see Delmonico or Palka being the answer That's a fair take. The question we should always be asking in 2017, 2018 and 2019 is "Does ______________ have a chance at being a valuable contributor on a playoff team?" Now as much as Avi drove us as crazy as this Machado negotiation process I think we can all admit that he has a better chance of being a contributing member than a Delmonico, Cordell, Tilson, etc. He's probably somewhere around Palka's value, just a bit higher. Avi, all things considered still has a chance to be a decent player. That being said, I'm okay with letting him move on. It's a coin flip if I'd rather have Jay or Avi for the same price really. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 9 minutes ago, SouthWallace said: Avi was a non-tender. Lol I know, I was being sarcastic because the dude sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Just now, ChiliIrishHammock24 said: Lol I know, I was being sarcastic because the dude sucks. HA! Wasn't sure if you were being facetious or not ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 They are looking at Matt as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 19 minutes ago, BrianAnderson said: That's a fair take. The question we should always be asking in 2017, 2018 and 2019 is "Does ______________ have a chance at being a valuable contributor on a playoff team?" Now as much as Avi drove us as crazy as this Machado negotiation process I think we can all admit that he has a better chance of being a contributing member than a Delmonico, Cordell, Tilson, etc. He's probably somewhere around Palka's value, just a bit higher. Avi, all things considered still has a chance to be a decent player. That being said, I'm okay with letting him move on. It's a coin flip if I'd rather have Jay or Avi for the same price really. Avi garcia did not have a higher chance of contributing to a white sox playoff team than those other guys do because Avisail Garcia had only 1 year of control remaining. If Avisail Garcia had a JD Martinez caliber 50 HR year, he'd hit free agency next year and we might not be wanting to pay him 9 figures. Regardless of what he did next year, because his early career has taken so long to evolve and he's been so inconsistent, there was no way for him to contribute to the next white sox playoff team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Good luck to him. The kid always played and worked hard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 That's a great low risk, high reward move for Tampa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenryan Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 1 hour ago, oldsox said: Avi should get plenty of AB's with Tampa. Certainly better than Carlos Gomez. I don’t know about plenty. He’s not taking over Gomez’s spot in RF. More of a DH vs LHP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 (edited) Avi sucked with the Sox, other than his BABIP fueled 2017. I'm just glad they didn't bring him back. Wish him luck in Tampa, but Good riddance to bad rubbish. It was beyond time for the Sox to move on from him. Edited January 14, 2019 by Jack Parkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 7 minutes ago, zenryan said: I don’t know about plenty. He’s not taking over Gomez’s spot in RF. More of a DH vs LHP. Sure he will, unless he gets hurt. Gomez has been going downhill for a while. I don't even know if he is still on the 40 man at Tampa, but Avi will be. Avi taking a beating here; I'll take the other side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 It's not like this team has a shortage of future outfielders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 59 minutes ago, zenryan said: I don’t know about plenty. He’s not taking over Gomez’s spot in RF. More of a DH vs LHP. Tommy Phan and Austin Meadows are getting the majority of AB's in the corners for the Rays. Avi will be battling for off day AB's and DH platoon with Choi most likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 3 hours ago, reiks12 said: If the Rays are after a player it means something. Watch Avi turn into the player we all thought he could be. And Davidson... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Balta1701 said: Avi garcia did not have a higher chance of contributing to a white sox playoff team than those other guys do because Avisail Garcia had only 1 year of control remaining. If Avisail Garcia had a JD Martinez caliber 50 HR year, he'd hit free agency next year and we might not be wanting to pay him 9 figures. Regardless of what he did next year, because his early career has taken so long to evolve and he's been so inconsistent, there was no way for him to contribute to the next white sox playoff team. But by this same argument, we should have traded good prospects to bring Machado or Arenado onto the roster the year before they hit free agency? (More of Hahn's "outside the box" thinking, I guess...) Other than Freddy Garcia (due to Ozzie's family connection), when has such an acquisition ever resulted in a player passing up FA before going out onto the open market? You can't argue the odds aren't at least a bit HIGHER of keeping/extending him had he actually been on the 2019 roster? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 39 minutes ago, TheFutureIsNear said: Tommy Phan and Austin Meadows are getting the majority of AB's in the corners for the Rays. Avi will be battling for off day AB's and DH platoon with Choi most likely. Phan has pretty good credentials. I like him. Meadows -- not so sure. I thought Meadows was more of a CF prospect, not sure about that other guy (CFer) who used to be good and got hurt last year. Can't remember his name. Who cares? I just want a third sacker, a center fielder, and another SP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 4 hours ago, bmags said: Well, if he does that, it isn't the fans you should be upset with. Amen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 I didn't hate Avi. It just didn't work out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Avi is injury prone. He is worth paying for as a good part-timer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 8 hours ago, Jake said: He had 4.2 WAR in 2017, which looked a lot at the time like he had put things together. Wouldn't surprise me at all if he returned to similar form. It would definitely surprise me. He was hitting at an unsustainable pace with a ridiculous babip. No way he returns to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 I wish him great luck with Rays. He is truly one of my all time favorites on the Sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, greg775 said: I wish him great luck with Rays. He is truly one of my all time favorites on the Sox Weird. Is Beckham one of your all-time favorites as well? Edited January 15, 2019 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 23 hours ago, Balta1701 said: Avi garcia did not have a higher chance of contributing to a white sox playoff team than those other guys do because Avisail Garcia had only 1 year of control remaining. If Avisail Garcia had a JD Martinez caliber 50 HR year, he'd hit free agency next year and we might not be wanting to pay him 9 figures. Regardless of what he did next year, because his early career has taken so long to evolve and he's been so inconsistent, there was no way for him to contribute to the next white sox playoff team. Sure he did. All it would've taken is the Sox non tendering him then resigning him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 2 hours ago, soxfan2014 said: Weird. Is Beckham one of your all-time favorites as well? Nope. Never liked his game. Love Avi's passion and the big bat he displayed two seasons ago when he was healthy. I can't dog on a guy who gave me so much baseball enjoyment, mostly that season but even some last year after he came back and got hot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschmaranz Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, greg775 said: Nope. Never liked his game. Love Avi's passion and the big bat he displayed two seasons ago when he was healthy. I can't dog on a guy who gave me so much baseball enjoyment, mostly that season but even some last year after he came back and got hot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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