Jump to content

Gated: Sarris on how ReyLo/Fulmer could improve


bmags

Recommended Posts

1 minute ago, bmags said:

https://theathletic.com/756814/2019/01/14/sarris-pitchers-who-could-have-a-breakout-season-in-2019-by-making-one-small-adjustment/

Really interesting about how they should dial back 4 seam usage and focusing on other pitches.

You mean not try to throw the pitch with the most velocity but the ones with more movement? Right up Coopers wheel house

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Just now, ptatc said:

You mean not try to throw the pitch with the most velocity but the ones with more movement? Right up Coopers wheel house

Yep! Though with fulmer you get the sense that he was throwing 4 seam maybe because it was only one he thought he could command.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

15 hours ago, ptatc said:

You mean not try to throw the pitch with the most velocity but the ones with more movement? Right up Coopers wheel house

I’m a big fan of McHughing, more pitchers should do it. 

**Throwing their most dominant pitch more often. 

Edited by Joshua Strong
Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 1/17/2019 at 8:47 AM, Joshua Strong said:

I’m a big fan of McHughing, more pitchers should do it. 

**Throwing their most dominant pitch more often. 

We pretty much know throwing your top velocity on every pitch causes casualties. There has to be a better approach and making fun of Coop like some have is not the answer. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 hours ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

I know that's gated stuff but is it allowed to at least post some of it ?

It’s just hard to excerpt because it’s so gif heavy but here’s a part on lopez

His changeup has a nice velocity gap — over 10 mph — and gets average whiffs. That’s probably already enough, but if he improves his cutter or curve, which he threw a combined 211 times last year and only gave up one homer, then he’s got three pitches that he can use instead of his four-seam.

Nate Eovaldi once had a big fastball he threw a ton, and people still hit it well. He found that no fastball is too big to hide and broke out by going more often to a cutter. López may want to learn from that lesson.

  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 minutes ago, bmags said:

It’s just hard to excerpt because it’s so gif heavy but here’s a part on lopez

His changeup has a nice velocity gap — over 10 mph — and gets average whiffs. That’s probably already enough, but if he improves his cutter or curve, which he threw a combined 211 times last year and only gave up one homer, then he’s got three pitches that he can use instead of his four-seam.

Nate Eovaldi once had a big fastball he threw a ton, and people still hit it well. He found that no fastball is too big to hide and broke out by going more often to a cutter. López may want to learn from that lesson.

I'm kind of surprised he hasn't already.  You'd think Coop would be driving that in his head.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 2 months later...
3 hours ago, bmags said:

Lopez has actually increased his four seamer usage to 64% this year.

Mixed results Id say!

Jesus christ he's currently rocking a FIP of 8.77 with a *gulp* 22.6% GB rate and a 15.8% HR/FB rate.   That's a bad combo.  Oh wait, he also has a walk rate of 8 per 9.  Wouldn't want any solo homers!

Fastball velocity is down to 93.2MPH (over 95MPH last year) and has currently been -4.4 runs below average on his heater this year.  

Him and Giolito are both running out of excuses.  The diminished stuff is one thing, the inability to command and control pitches is another.  Lopez has a little more margin for error given he was actually decent last year but Giolito was literally league worst.

After all the pitcher injuries the inability of these two guys to get out of their own way has probably been the biggest non Manny disappointment in the rebuild.

Edited by chitownsportsfan
Link to comment
Share on other sites

7 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said:

Jesus christ he's currently rocking a FIP of 8.77 with a *gulp* 22.6% GB rate and a 15.8% HR/FB rate.   That's a bad combo.  Oh wait, he also has a walk rate of 8 per 9.  Wouldn't want any solo homers!

Fastball velocity is down to 93.2MPH (over 95MPH last year) and has currently been -4.4 runs below average on his heater this year.  

Him and Giolito are both running out of excuses.  The diminished stuff is one thing, the inability to command and control pitches is another.  Lopez has a little more margin for error given he was actually decent last year but Giolito was literally league worst.

After all the pitcher injuries the inability of these two guys to get out of their own way has probably been the biggest non Manny disappointment in the rebuild.

Yeah, and I think bigger sign with the 4 seam usage is so little control of their offerings that they have to consistently revert to "what they can control" i.e. 4 seamer which still isn't very good.

That said, I am not pleased with the plans the sox have given these guys to attack the other teams hitters.

edit: When you are 65% 4 seam fastball, you can sit fastball every ab, and he has so little control not even feel self conscious about getting tricked. He has to change up his offerings.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 minutes ago, bmags said:

Yeah, and I think bigger sign with the 4 seam usage is so little control of their offerings that they have to consistently revert to "what they can control" i.e. 4 seamer which still isn't very good.

That said, I am not pleased with the plans the sox have given these guys to attack the other teams hitters.

edit: When you are 65% 4 seam fastball, you can sit fastball every ab, and he has so little control not even feel self conscious about getting tricked. He has to change up his offerings.

I don't really know what Cooper's philosophy is these days but whatever he's trying with Lopez isn't working, clearly.  Watching Lopez it looks like he's at his best when he's "effectively wild".  

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I'm open-minded and could see it going a different way but I see a younger Bartolo Colon in Lopez. When he has his good heater he might be best off just attacking with it and hoping to generate soft contact. Needs to have enough command to at least be wild in the zone for that to work though.

It's odd that Fulmer gets hit so hard on his fastball when he has a high spin rate and good release point that makes his perceived velocity better than the measured velocity. Just goes to show that sometimes you just have to go out and play the games.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...