Balta1701 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, cjgalloway said: Is this the return that's pretty much confirmed? Fulmer, Bummer and Rivera? Or just speculation No, it's a twitter random anonymous account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saufley Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, mqr said: Unless it was solidified, phsyicalled like yesterday, there's no chance. They're not going to announce something without a physical Can't a deal be announced pending a physical? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Saufley said: Can't a deal be announced pending a physical? Announced but not official. It could be "announced" and still fall apart even then, until everything is signed and filed it isn't a deal. Remember the NBA 3 way trade this year that was announced and then fell apart when one team realized the other team thought they were getting a different player with the same last name? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREEDY Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, Saufley said: Can't a deal be announced pending a physical? Not with a Miami Heat style intro that people are expecting 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heirdog Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 (edited) Pollock was reported to have passed his physical already but deal hasn’t officially been announced by LAD yet. And there is always common courtesy extended between teams to allow each to speak to the players and let them know about player being traded. In the new social world, the player then goes on social media and “thanks the org for a great run and how they are looking forward to the new start w new team” So both teams have announcement ready, Friedman talks to Pederson, Hahn to Fulmer, KW to Bummer and Getz to Laz simultaneously and then they release statement. Edited January 25, 2019 by heirdog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 It's happened, but it's very rare for someone to back out of a deal pending a physical. Lozano would have a hard time staying an agent if he pulled a stunt like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EloyJenkins Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, GREEDY said: people are expecting People starved for a signing that are putting up ridiculous ideas is not expecting...I don't expect any of this to happen...but it makes me happy to daydream it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, EloyJenkins said: People starved for a signing that are putting up ridiculous ideas is not expecting...I don't expect any of this to happen...but it makes me happy to daydream it. In the back of my mind I'm thinking Rosenthal said nothing is close with Pederson. The price seems to be light, why would Machado sign now, and the Soxfest surprise is the signing of Shawn Kelly or someone of that ilk. But many people seem to be suggesting the bigger moves are happening. I hope they do, but I'll believe it when it happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 21 minutes ago, mqr said: Unless it was solidified, phsyicalled like yesterday, there's no chance. They're not going to announce something without a physical Most deals get announced before the physical is complete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 9 minutes ago, heirdog said: Pollock was reported to have passed his physical already but deal hasn’t officially been announced by LAD yet. And there is always common courtesy extended between teams to allow each to speak to the players and let them know about player being traded. In the new social world, the player then goes on social media and “thanks the org for a great run and how they are looking forward to the new start w new team” So both teams have announcement ready, Friedman talks to Pederson, Hahn to Fulmer, KW to Bummer and Getz to Laz simultaneously and then they release statement. I was going to say, maybe they're waiting for Pollock to be officially announced first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Most deals get announced before the physical is complete. Well announced as in agreed to. But then a few days later you hear that it is official and a 40-man roster move is made. Free agents anyway. Edited January 25, 2019 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Most trades, physicals don't happen. They exchange medical records. With Manny, there will be one due to the size of the commitment obviously. Whether he's already gone through it or not, who knows. I'm sure he could probably have it done in Miami. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 7 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: Most trades, physicals don't happen. They exchange medical records. With Manny, there will be one due to the size of the commitment obviously. Whether he's already gone through it or not, who knows. I'm sure he could probably have it done in Miami. Not to mention they'll need a physical for the insurance on a contract of that size. It will probably be for about half the contract or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 52 minutes ago, cjgalloway said: So is this actually happening or is this just speculation? Until the official release, everything is speculation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOFHurt35 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Just now, Jack Parkman said: Until the official release, everything is speculation. No kidding, and we've had plenty of speculative craziness this entire off-season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Wasn't Eloy announced around 10:30am? If it's not announced by sox by then, it's probably because it isn't done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, bmags said: Wasn't Eloy announced around 10:30am? If it's not announced by sox by then, it's probably because it isn't done. if the Sox are trying to make it a soxfest surprise, why would they officially announce it before? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Just now, fathom said: if the Sox are trying to make it a soxfest surprise, why would they officially announce it before? I have a hard time believing the sox are planning to "surprise" soxfest with a Joc Pederson trade. He is a nice piece of the puzzle if Machado is around, but not that exciting by himself. Saving a Machado announcement for Soxfest....now that I could understand. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomPickle Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 The 10th most recent follow on Twitter for Joc Pederson is Brad Kaaya, who played QB at Miami. Machado to the White Sox confirmed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOFHurt35 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 https://www.fantasypros.com/mlb/news/199125/joc-pederson-trade-not-close-to-happening-right-now.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, fathom said: if the Sox are trying to make it a soxfest surprise, why would they officially announce it before? The idea that two teams are going to hold a secret trade for over 24 hours in this environment is fantastic to me. If some white sox bloggers know it's done, there are LA dodgers bloggers that know its done, there would be friends of agents that know its done. It wouldn't survive the daylight if it was completed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, bmags said: The idea that two teams are going to hold a secret trade for over 24 hours in this environment is fantastic to me. If some white sox bloggers know it's done, there are LA dodgers bloggers that know its done, there would be friends of agents that know its done. It wouldn't survive the daylight if it was completed. I mean...technically it hasn't. At least a few people have said Fulmer/Bummer/3rd piece or Laz. Those names have been rumored for a few days now. But yah, no one super credible is saying that. Though raBBit seems to know more than he's shared, and seems awfully confident lately....which may or may not be related to Joc/Manny. Then you also have WSD emoji and Chili's comments... Edited January 25, 2019 by ChiSox59 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Just now, ChiSox59 said: I mean...technically it hasn't. At least a few people have said Fulmer/Bummer/3rd piece or Laz. Those names have been rumored for a few days now. But yah, no one super credible is saying that. Though raBBit seems to know more than he's shared, and seems awfully confident lately....which may or may not be related to Joc/Manny. It is worth pointing out that the players in the Shields trade were known for something like a week before the trade was actually announced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Im just struggling to believe the Dodgers would trade Joc Pederson for the handful of scrubs that have been reported. Practically giving him away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 41 minutes ago, soxfan2014 said: Well announced as in agreed to. But then a few days later you hear that it is official and a 40-man roster move is made. Free agents anyway. Not sure about trades, but for FA signings, Clubs are technically not allowed to announce a signing that is contingent on a player passing a physical prior to passing said physical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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