Jerksticks Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Say the trade never happens. How many people are expecting Carson Fulmer to turn it around this year? While it’s certainly possible, trading him for SOMETHING is better than losing him for nothing pretty soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenksycat Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 9 minutes ago, Jerksticks said: Say the trade never happens. How many people are expecting Carson Fulmer to turn it around this year? While it’s certainly possible, trading him for SOMETHING is better than losing him for nothing pretty soon. I'd rather have Fulmer make a go as a reliever over 2 meaningless years of Joc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanJoeCrede Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 7 minutes ago, Jerksticks said: Say the trade never happens. How many people are expecting Carson Fulmer to turn it around this year? While it’s certainly possible, trading him for SOMETHING is better than losing him for nothing pretty soon. Kinda depends on your definition of "turn it around". Just about all the projections show Rodon as the only White Sox pitcher expected to be worth 1 WAR or above. I would say it's hard to NOT expect at least 1 or 2 of our starters to exceed the projections. If Fulmer stays, and earns a spot coming out of ST, it almost has to mean he has turned a corner. All that being said, I would think he's pretty low on most people's (and my personal list) of turn the corner candidates on our pitching staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Just now, MeanJoeCrede said: Kinda depends on your definition of "turn it around". Just about all the projections show Rodon as the only White Sox pitcher expected to be worth 1 WAR or above. I would say it's hard to NOT expect at least 1 or 2 of our starters to exceed the projections. If Fulmer stays, and earns a spot coming out of ST, it almost has to mean he has turned a corner. All that being said, I would think he's pretty low on most people's (and my personal list) of turn the corner candidates on our pitching staff. I thought he was done starting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, jenksycat said: I'd rather have Fulmer make a go as a reliever over 2 meaningless years of Joc. Right now Fulmer could be somewhere around our #4 LH RP, as he hasn't shown he can get people out consistently. Today we are probably looking at Fry #1, and then some combination of Frare, and Bummer in front of him. That is without another guy jumping ahead of him, like a Hunter Schryver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Right now Fulmer could be somewhere around our #4 LH RP, as he hasn't shown he can get people out consistently. Today we are probably looking at Fry #1, and then some combination of Frare, and Bummer in front of him. That is without another guy jumping ahead of him, like a Hunter Schryver. The fact you think Fulmer is a LHP is all I need to know regarding your posts lol 1 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnin' two Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 1 minute ago, cjgalloway said: The fact you think Fulmer is a LHP is all I need to know regarding your posts lol Hahah! That is true, but also, only furthers his point, as he would be buried even more deeply in the ranks of RH relievers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanJoeCrede Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 14 minutes ago, Jerksticks said: I thought he was done starting. I think we all tend to think that based on his lack of success/development, but do the White Sox? He hasn't shown thus far that he can perform up to anybody's expectations in either role, and I think the Sox would prefer to see him succeed as a starter if given a choice. Unless something clicked this offseason, I think you're right and he is done starting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 20 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Right now Fulmer could be somewhere around our #4 LH RP, as he hasn't shown he can get people out consistently. Today we are probably looking at Fry #1, and then some combination of Frare, and Bummer in front of him. That is without another guy jumping ahead of him, like a Hunter Schryver. Uh, doing ok there? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 27 minutes ago, cjgalloway said: The fact you think Fulmer is a LHP is all I need to know regarding your posts lol To be fair, trying to pitch LH might be Fulmer's next move. 1 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 9 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: To be fair, trying to pitch LH might be Fulmer's next move. I feel bad for the kid, seems like a great guy... but I seriously LMAO'd at this comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 44 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Right now Fulmer could be somewhere around our #4 LH RP, as he hasn't shown he can get people out consistently. Today we are probably looking at Fry #1, and then some combination of Frare, and Bummer in front of him. That is without another guy jumping ahead of him, like a Hunter Schryver. Wow, wat? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 27 minutes ago, MeanJoeCrede said: I think we all tend to think that based on his lack of success/development, but do the White Sox? He hasn't shown thus far that he can perform up to anybody's expectations in either role, and I think the Sox would prefer to see him succeed as a starter if given a choice. Unless something clicked this offseason, I think you're right and he is done starting. He was a reliever for the majority of the 2nd half in AAA last season. I think he's probably a reliever for good with the Sox if they retain him. Also....seemed like this rumor had some major steam for today....seems like its probably not close, like Rosenthal said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: He was a reliever for the majority of the 2nd half in AAA last season. I think he's probably a reliever for good with the Sox if they retain him. Also....seemed like this rumor had some major steam for today....seems like its probably not close, like Rosenthal said. The Rosenthal tweet was well before the WSD/Bilek tidbits though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 17 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: He was a reliever for the majority of the 2nd half in AAA last season. I think he's probably a reliever for good with the Sox if they retain him. Also....seemed like this rumor had some major steam for today....seems like its probably not close, like Rosenthal said. For the White Sox you're right he's probably a reliever if anything, but it still doesn't seem like "working as a reliever" is likely to solve the problems for a guy whose main problem is an inconsistent delivery that the White Sox already tinkered with. Making changes and then not having time to get used to them has a good chance of being one of the things that undermined him. For another team...maybe they think there's a simple change that the White Sox coaching staff doesn't see? If not that, then I'd guess you gotta work him as a starter to work on repeating the delivery. If you move him to the pen eventually fine, but how do you develop consistency coming out of the bullpen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smellysox Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 27 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: To be fair, trying to pitch LH might be Fulmer's next move. Just awesome! Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Correct me if I’m wrong, as I might have missed something, but this “rumored” Fulmer/Bummer/Rivera return is something one of us just made up, right? Not actually “rumored” at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Eminor3rd said: Correct me if I’m wrong, as I might have missed something, but this “rumored” Fulmer/Bummer/Rivera return is something one of us just made up, right? Not actually “rumored” at all? I think that one guy on Twitter who is now backtracking his comments from yesterday said that is the package. So take it with a huge grain of salt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Eminor3rd said: Correct me if I’m wrong, as I might have missed something, but this “rumored” Fulmer/Bummer/Rivera return is something one of us just made up, right? Not actually “rumored” at all? raBBit hinted (I believe) that a MLBTradeRumors user who claims the trade is done for Bummer/Fulmer/low level minor leaguer. Some other twitter rando with like zero followers claims that third piece is Rivera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Eminor3rd said: Correct me if I’m wrong, as I might have missed something, but this “rumored” Fulmer/Bummer/Rivera return is something one of us just made up, right? Not actually “rumored” at all? Random Twitter account from last night mentioned it. I think it came from somewhere before that though. Probably here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneofthemikes Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Eminor3rd said: Correct me if I’m wrong, as I might have missed something, but this “rumored” Fulmer/Bummer/Rivera return is something one of us just made up, right? Not actually “rumored” at all? Meh. Depends. It was "rumored" by a rando on twitter. Might as well have something one of us made up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, Eminor3rd said: Correct me if I’m wrong, as I might have missed something, but this “rumored” Fulmer/Bummer/Rivera return is something one of us just made up, right? Not actually “rumored” at all? There’s no concrete evidence to suggest that’s who is involved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Reuters reporting Realmuto to Dodgers is getting closer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Buehrle>Wood said: Reuters reporting Realmuto to Dodgers is getting closer. Maybe they're working on getting this deal official before moving onto Pederson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomPickle Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 If Verdugo is included in the Realmuto deal then I would think Pederson becomes much less expendable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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