DirtySox Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 (edited) Edited January 21, 2019 by DirtySox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Finally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Reds better get an extension, because otherwise this deal would blow just as hard as all their other deals this off-season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 I k ow that it is in the spirit of providing them in that they get additional value they can use, but I’m still quite annoyed at the thought of a team trading a competitive balance pick to the freakin Yankees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chicago White Sox Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, ChiliIrishHammock24 said: Reds better get an extension, because otherwise this deal would blow just as hard as all their other deals this off-season. MLBpipeline has the 2B prospect the Reds gave up in the Puig trade as the 6th best in all of the minors. Fangraphs has Long as 50 FV guy. That’s a decent pair of prospects to give up for a team that’s still not very good. Gray better be agreeing to a semi-friendly extension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 1 minute ago, DirtySox said: That’s a decent extension all things considered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Just now, Chicago White Sox said: MLBpipeline has the 2B prospect the Reds gave up in the Puig trade as the 6th best in all of the minors. Fangraphs has Long as 50 FV guy. That’s a decent pair of prospects to give up for a team that’s still not very good. Gray better be agreeing to a semi-friendly extension. 5 yrs/$50M if the Reds pick up his 5th year option of $12M. Otherwise, 4 yrs/$37.5M. Seems like a pretty team friendly deal to me. I like this for the Reds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chicago White Sox Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Just now, ChiliIrishHammock24 said: 5 yrs/$50M if the Reds pick up his 5th year option of $12M. Otherwise, 4 yrs/$37.5M. Seems like a pretty team friendly deal to me. I like this for the Reds. Yeah, that extension makes it much better from the Reds’ perspective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nardiwashere Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 What would have been a comparable package for the Sox? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Nardiwashere said: What would have been a comparable package for the Sox? Fangraphs would say Zack Collins would be comparable to Shed Long. But we don't have a comp pick to trade. So for that, maybe Collins + Steele Walker? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 But wait, there's more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nardiwashere Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, ChiliIrishHammock24 said: Fangraphs would say Zack Collins would be comparable to Shed Long. But we don't have a comp pick to trade. So for that, maybe Collins + Steele Walker? I don't hate it for Reds.... Also, aren't younger infielders their biggest depth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Just now, Nardiwashere said: I don't hate it for Reds.... Also, aren't younger infielders their biggest depth? Absolutely. They have a loaded IF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GermanSoxFan Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 I think Long is a margial talent going forward. But the Yankees were never going to recoup what they gave up for Gray. I don't hate this trade for both teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 That contract looks good for both Gray and the Reds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominikk85 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Interesting that the yankees flipped long who is a 50 for stowers who is a 40 albeit with upside. Issue is that long is rule 5 eligible so he has to be protected and both the Yankees and reds have no room for that. So the reds really needed so sell him if they didn't want to lose him unless they carry him on the roster. Seattle has enough room to carry him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 This is a nice move for the Reds. Would have liked this for the Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Gray could headline a rotation in far better shape than the one that finished 2018 with a 5.02 ERA: Gray, Roark, Wood, Luis Castilloand Anthony DeSclafani, with Tyler Mahle, Sal Romano and Cody Reed also capable of starting. While the Reds have yet to sign a major league free agent this winter, the additions through trade have pushed their payroll above $120 million, which would be a franchise high. Following a 67-95 season, the Reds felt close enough to start moving toward contention, even with a loaded National League Central that includes three potential playoff teams in Chicago, Milwaukee and St. Louis as well as a Pittsburgh team that finished above .500 last season. source:espn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 I believe i heard reds pitching coach was his pitching coach at vanderbilt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 36 minutes ago, Harry Chappas said: I believe i heard reds pitching coach was his pitching coach at vanderbilt. Would that also make him Fulmer's pitching coach? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 The fact that the Reds are committing extensive resources to jump start their rebuild in the face of 4 teams that on paper are better (and definitely at least 3) puts more pressure on teams like the White Sox and Padres to step up their efforts...or end up in limbo like the Blue Jays (at least they have two future stars on the way), Pirates and Mariners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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