Soxfest Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Nobody better winning meaningless December games than DA Bears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Just now, Soxfest said: Nobody better winning meaningless December games than DA Bears. Considering they need to give Raiders a worse pick as they can, I'll take it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Kevin White, Adam Shaheen, Mitch Trubisky... Pace would’ve wasted the draft pick anyways. How this guy is still employed is amazing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Of all the problems they have the offensive line is still the worst. How many negative plays have they had today against the 2nd team defense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Robinson finishes 2 catches shy of 100 on the season.. fantastic season by him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chisoxfn Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 I’m just glad they showed up. Vs second string or not...they still can’t score but at least they didn’t lose by 40 and end the year on a complete dud. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 2 hours ago, thxfrthmmrs said: What does Matt Nagy bring to the table for this team? Continuity. Consistently firing coaches and GMs can lead to perpetual rebuilds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 1 hour ago, ptatc said: Of all the problems they have the offensive line is still the worst. How many negative plays have they had today against the 2nd team defense. The offensive line’s effort was awful today, letting many linemen easily get to Trubisky. The rushing yardage they had from scrimmage this year was at times offensive. I would also like to know the advantage of quick passes to the outside in that offense. They seem to yield a few quick yards at a time but then get shut down almost immediately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, The Beast said: Continuity. Consistently firing coaches and GMs can lead to perpetual rebuilds. Yeah, it would suck to not win a playoff game in back-to-back years without our amazing front office and head coach... oh wait. ? Edited December 29, 2019 by Moan4Yoan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 22 minutes ago, The Beast said: Continuity. Consistently firing coaches and GMs can lead to perpetual rebuilds. I think he earned one more year. I have my issues with him but the team didn’t give up and the culture is supposedly pretty good. He has a lot to learn and I think he has the mentality where he will give an honest assessment of everything over the offseason. Reality is everything came too easy for Bears a year ago (players and coaches) and I think from the kicking absurdity in the offseason to the fact that this team had so many guys only used to being on Bears that not enough people realized how difficult it is to consistently win in the NFL really is. I think the lack of edge and maybe arrogance around team certainty had major implications on the season. Mitch being so apprehensive to throw the ball downfield as well as his injury and his shoddy play certainly contributed as well. That said a good offseason, an easier schedule, and some slight adjustments and I can certainly see this team being back in playoffs and back with a nice trajectory...but with Mitch’s future much more in doubt they are going to have a tough choice to make as to how to handle QB situation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 21 minutes ago, The Beast said: The offensive line’s effort was awful today, letting many linemen easily get to Trubisky. The rushing yardage they had from scrimmage this year was at times offensive. I would also like to know the advantage of quick passes to the outside in that offense. They seem to yield a few quick yards at a time but then get shut down almost immediately. I sometimes wonder why so much short stuff and is it Mitch or is it the system. We specialize in throwing five yards short of the sticks. I figure a good part has to be on Mitch but so many seem to be design. The inability to run and have a good screen game certainly have hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 4 hours ago, The Beast said: Continuity. Consistently firing coaches and GMs can lead to perpetual rebuilds. That’s reason to not fire a coach but not reason to hire one. What was his calling card as an NFL coach has been nonexistent for one and a half season now (the offensive output today was inexcusable). On top of that, the franchise QB has took a huge step back in a year we expected major growth, the team has gone through games this year where they didn’t seem ready to play, and they struggled in fundamentals of the game, especially blocking (not just the OL, but RBs and WRs also). They went .500 because they had too much talent and beat up on some pretty bad team. Nagy has that to thank because that’s what saved his job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Kitchens and Shurmur first to get chopped(after Rivera, of course) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Pace has shown that he struggles at top pick drafting. - Pro Bowl in italics. 2015 Kevin White - DeVante Parker (14) Eddie Goldman Hroniss Grasu Jeremy Langford Adrian Amos Tayo Fabuluje 2016 Leonard Floyd - Jaylon Smith (34) Cody Whitehair Jonathan Bullard Nick Kwiatkoski Deiondre' Hall Jordan Howard DeAndre Houston-Carson Daniel Braverman 2017 Mitchell Trubisky - Patrick Mahomes (10) Adam Shaheen (3rd round pick traded to SF to move up to #2 spot turned into Pro Bowl RB Alvin Kamara) Eddie Jackson Tarik Cohen Jordan Morgan 2018 Roquan Smith - Leighton Vander Esch (19) James Daniels Anthony Miller Joel Iyiegbuniwe Bilal Nichols Kylie Fitts Javon Wims 2019 (2nd round traded for Anthony Miller turned into Pro Bowl WR Mecole Hardman) David Montgomery Riley Ridley Duke Shelley Kerrith Whyte Jr. Stephen Denmark 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Yikes, from a pretty well placed source who has a lot of knowledge: The Bears primary target this off-season will be Alex Smith. Yuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 18 hours ago, thxfrthmmrs said: That’s reason to not fire a coach but not reason to hire one. What was his calling card as an NFL coach has been nonexistent for one and a half season now (the offensive output today was inexcusable). On top of that, the franchise QB has took a huge step back in a year we expected major growth, the team has gone through games this year where they didn’t seem ready to play, and they struggled in fundamentals of the game, especially blocking (not just the OL, but RBs and WRs also). They went .500 because they had too much talent and beat up on some pretty bad team. Nagy has that to thank because that’s what saved his job. I think Trubisky reflects poorly on Pace, not Nagy. I truly believe if Trubisky was capable, Nagy would have gotten more out of him. I don't know how to judge Nagy because the driving force of an NFL offense is the QB and he doesn't have a capable one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 21 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Yikes, from a pretty well placed source who has a lot of knowledge: The Bears primary target this off-season will be Alex Smith. Yuck. I could have told you that months ago. His career is over in Washington and he knows Nagy's system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 59 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: I think Trubisky reflects poorly on Pace, not Nagy. I truly believe if Trubisky was capable, Nagy would have gotten more out of him. I don't know how to judge Nagy because the driving force of an NFL offense is the QB and he doesn't have a capable one. The GM takes the hit for drafting the wrong player but the coaching staff takes the hit for failing to develop the QB. Pace missed out on all pro talents like Mahomes and Watson but Trubisky has the tools to be an above average QB that we saw glimpses of last year. Part of Nagy’s job was to harness the potential of MT and he’s failing to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 4 hours ago, knightni said: I could have told you that months ago. His career is over in Washington and he knows Nagy's system. He really helped Mahomes by all accounts in that QB room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 I’m hoping Bears move on from their OC and Oline coach and land Shurmer and Callahan. While I am not blaming Heistand and Helfrich, I don’t think their schemes were great fits with Nagys and I think the seasoned Callahan and Shurmer would be great alongside Nagy to help challenge him, etc. I remain optimistic that Nagy can truly learn from this and this can end up a blip in a strong run as head coach. Or at least I have to hope that. There is a lot to learn from this past season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 41 minutes ago, SoxAce said: He really helped Mahomes by all accounts in that QB room. Smith would make a lot of sense. Probably open to backup role and also familiar with system. If he does well, he knows he has good shot at starting but I also assume he will be open to mentoring Mitch. That said no idea whether Smith will be healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 7 hours ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Yikes, from a pretty well placed source who has a lot of knowledge: The Bears primary target this off-season will be Alex Smith. Yuck. Wow if true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 I'd be fine with it. I'd also take a look at Foles or Minshew (less so), depending on what Jacksonville ends up doing. The Bears don't need a GREAT qb to win and go far in the playoffs. They just need a competent one. It's time for the Trubisky experiment to end. He can be a backup. They need to sign a guy and then take a flier on one late in the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Pace addressing the media right now on the Score Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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