Kyyle23 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 On 2/22/2019 at 1:31 PM, southsider2k5 said: If the name didn't hit the news and Kraft's did, it HAS to be political. Bump schefter was right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 9, 2019 Author Share Posted March 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: Bump schefter was right I half seriously said Trump, but wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 33 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: I half seriously said Trump, but wow. You were wrong only because you didn't pluralize it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingandalongonetoleft Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 I knew there was a reason presidents typically sell off/separate themselves from their personal business interests prior to taking office! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Kyyle23 said: Bump schefter was right Lol, no he wasnt. Being friends with the old owner is nothing like the "involvement" Kraft had. It was disappointingly Schefter playing damage control for his buddy Bob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Tony said: He’s not right....yet. That is true, he did his job to a T. Now everyone's talking about the guy who had nothing to do with the actual crime. Kraft >>> Trump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 I, for one, am shocked it's the Raiders...... ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Trade then 27 year old Khalil Mack and 24 year old Amari Cooper to "rebuild" Trade for Antonio Brown, who turns 31 in time for training camp Gruden gonna Gruden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogua Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Steve9347 said: Trade then 27 year old Khalil Mack and 24 year old Amari Cooper to "rebuild" Trade for Antonio Brown, who turns 31 in time for training camp Gruden gonna Gruden Would you trade a 3rd and 5th round pick for a 1st round pick? And would you trade Amari Cooper straight up for Antonio Brown? We can all make fun of Jon Gruden because, well, he's Jon Gruden, but if he hits on these draft picks he's going to look like an absolute genius in a few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 10 minutes ago, Boogua said: Would you trade a 3rd and 5th round pick for a 1st round pick? And would you trade Amari Cooper straight up for Antonio Brown? We can all make fun of Jon Gruden because, well, he's Jon Gruden, but if he hits on these draft picks he's going to look like an absolute genius in a few years. This is true but Grudens teams have never been "drafted", he never had awesome rookies and young players that he built up. He always relied on vets that he didn't have to teach, so I will be curious to see how his this next draft goes for him. Not sure how much he had to do with the 2018 draft but it doesn't look too good so far. also, AB screwed over Pittsburgh hardcore if this is true, that Buffalo trade would have been way better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, Boogua said: Would you trade a 3rd and 5th round pick for a 1st round pick? And would you trade Amari Cooper straight up for Antonio Brown? We can all make fun of Jon Gruden because, well, he's Jon Gruden, but if he hits on these draft picks he's going to look like an absolute genius in a few years. I would trade a 3 and 5 for a 1, but I wouldn't trade Cooper for Brown right now, no. Cooper had a big year, is 6-7 years younger and is significantly cheaper. 7 hours ago, Steve9347 said: Trade then 27 year old Khalil Mack and 24 year old Amari Cooper to "rebuild" Trade for Antonio Brown, who turns 31 in time for training camp Gruden gonna Gruden And now he traded Osemele. Remember last year when Gruden took the job and complimented Carr and the two starting OG's + said he'd retain Mack? Now Mack is gone and 1 of those 2 OG's are gone. Edited March 10, 2019 by soxfan49 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 23 minutes ago, soxfan49 said: I would trade a 3 and 5 for a 1, but I wouldn't trade Cooper for Brown right now, no. Cooper had a big year, is 6-7 years younger and is significantly cheaper. And now he traded Osemele. Remember last year when Gruden took the job and complimented Carr and the two starting OG's + said he'd retain Mack? Now Mack is gone and 1 of those 2 OG's are gone. And he included the Bears 6th rounder with Osemele...to get the Jets' 5th rounder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 2 hours ago, soxfan49 said: I would trade a 3 and 5 for a 1 You would? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 27 minutes ago, thxfrthmmrs said: You would? Yes, the odds of a first rounder panning out are much better. Plus, even trading the top pick in round 3 and 5 for the last pick in round 1 is a 282 point win on the draft chart for the team getting the 1st. First round picks work out about 25% of the team. It's about 12% in round 3 and 6% in round 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 I liked the Amari Cooper trade for the Raiders, even if he exceeded expectations with the Cowboys. But it kind of defeats the purpose if you trade draft picks for a 31 years old wide receiver with drama after that. And then you give him bags and bags of money. When you wouldn't pay 27 year old Khalil Mack for missing some OTAS. Only 9 years left on the Gruden deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 (edited) Teams can start talking to players now, right? I guess it's noon today. Should be crazy. Sounds like the Bears and Packers have interest in Mark Ingram. Edited March 11, 2019 by GoSox05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 20 minutes ago, GoSox05 said: Teams can start talking to players now, right? I guess it's noon today. Should be crazy. Sounds like the Bears and Packers have interest in Mark Ingram. Today is the beginning of the "tampering but it's ok tampering and we won't call it tampering" period Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 I hope if they end up signing Ingram they end up pairing him with a rookie back. Tbh I prefer Yeldon. Cheaper and younger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 17 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: I hope if they end up signing Ingram they end up pairing him with a rookie back. Tbh I prefer Yeldon. Cheaper and younger. He will be paired with Cohen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, Kyyle23 said: He will be paired with Cohen Cohen is a gadget player/athlete. They need someone who can carry the load if the starter gets injured. Cohen isn't going to get 15+ carries per game. He'll get his 10 carries and 5-10 catches. Edited March 11, 2019 by Jack Parkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 8 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: Cohen is a gadget player/athlete. They need someone who can carry the load if the starter gets injured. Cohen isn't going to get 15+ carries per game. He'll get his 10 carries and 5-10 catches. Nagy isn't going to split time with three backs like you think he will. He will be in the backfield a lot next year sharing time with either a free agent or rookie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: Nagy isn't going to split time with three backs like you think he will. He will be in the backfield a lot next year sharing time with either a free agent or rookie If said FA/rookie gets injured then what? They need the 3rd back for injury insurance. If they're left with Cohen/Mizzell you can kiss any semblance of a run game goodbye. Edited March 11, 2019 by Jack Parkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kyyle23 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 35 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: If said FA/rookie gets injured then what? They need the 3rd back for injury insurance. If they're left with Cohen/Mizzell you can kiss any semblance of a run game goodbye. You can fight it all you want but Cohen is gonna be a feature. You can't insure your backs 4 deep, especially the bears right now. They are gonna be getting someone to split time with Cohen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 34 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: If said FA/rookie gets injured then what? They need the 3rd back for injury insurance. If they're left with Cohen/Mizzell you can kiss any semblance of a run game goodbye. If Ingram is out short term, Cohen and whoever the 3rd stringer is can handle the RB duty in a pinch. If he's out long term, you bring in another FA. No need to spend additional resource on a backup RB if we sign Ingram. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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