G&T Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 12 hours ago, soxfan49 said: "We aren't cheap" "If we were able to afford Machado and Harper they would have come here" Uh you just proved how cheap you idiots are. God damn **** this organization This is the KW motto from forever ago. We aren't cheap, we are poor. What's totally odd is that every other team points to player valuation for why they didn't pay for a guy, but the Sox have never said that. Their excuses about signing a new core is so lame. Not one guy right now can be seen as a future core player. Eloy hasn't played in the MLB. Kopech is out for the year. Everyone else has been underwhelming or hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 (edited) It's a shame the White Sox put their fans in a position to call them cheap. Sell the team if you can't spend the money to compete. KW's "love connection" with Bryce Harper was worth a 0% discount. Edited March 1, 2019 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiwiSox Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 6 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: There is no reliable source that said they actually even tried to sign Harper. They met him, but that seems about it. Once Boras gave a price, it seems they were done. Yeah it's basically worst case scenario. I thought they just weren't being public but the truth is they were out in the first week of December. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 You can’t make this stuff up https://mobile.twitter.com/JamesFox917/status/1101451726966669312 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, fathom said: You can’t make this stuff up https://mobile.twitter.com/JamesFox917/status/1101451726966669312 Honestly, good. Every time anyone opens their mouth I just get more ticked off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiwiSox Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 I was expecting a lot worse while I was waiting for that link to load. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 Here's the other thing to look forward to, if these prospects ever turn into studs who could command huge deals, you better hope the Sox manipulate their service clocks, because they are out of here the second they become free agents unless something changes upstairs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 I'm calling out all these Sox fans talking about it's not a failure because they are glad we didn't get either player. A player may not be worth the full contract, but their signing is still very important to certain teams that lack credibility. The bottom line is this team told us they would put forth the effort and that money would be there. They wanted Machado and failed. I didn't like Carmelo Anthony years ago because he is overrated, but I wanted the Bulls to sign him because that would have given us credibility in the league while being great for that team and fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saufley Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 19 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: It's a shame the White Sox put their fans in a position to call them cheap. Sell the team if you can't spend the money to compete. KW's "love connection" with Bryce Harper was worth a 0% discount. I hate to say this and, as a Sox fan I never thought I would, but I just don't care anymore! They don't care and neither do I!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 Harper would have paid for himself. IDIOTIC front office!!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: Here's the other thing to look forward to, if these prospects ever turn into studs who could command huge deals, you better hope the Sox manipulate their service clocks, because they are out of here the second they become free agents unless something changes upstairs. I was thinking this same thing. If we can't sign two Hall of Famers to fair market deals with a weak market, can we sign our own guys if they warrant it? If Moncada turns into prime Cano he will want 375 million by the time his contract is up. Would we be willing to set the market and pay him? What if the Dodgers and Yankees come across money and push it to 400 million? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 Just now, reiks12 said: Harper would have paid for himself. IDIOTIC front office!!!!! The Padres also sold 1.5 million dollars worth of tickets I read. Imagine if we would have opened the book and signed one of these guys in January. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiwiSox Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 1 minute ago, SonofaRoache said: I was thinking this same thing. If we can't sign two Hall of Famers to fair market deals with a weak market, can we sign our own guys if they warrant it? If Moncada turns into prime Cano he will want 375 million by the time his contract is up. Would we be willing to set the market and pay him? What if the Dodgers and Yankees come across money and push it to 400 million? Eloy maybe but the rest of them aren't good enough to warrant this type of thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 All arguments here make sense, or least most of them. But the underlying problem here is that players don't want to play for this team in this city. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiwiSox Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, oldsox said: All arguments here make sense, or least most of them. But the underlying problem here is that players don't want to play for this team in this city. Both Harper and Machado would've gladly signed with the White Sox if they were offered enough money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Hombre Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 10 minutes ago, oldsox said: All arguments here make sense, or least most of them. But the underlying problem here is that players don't want to play for this team in this city. Players will sign with the team that gives them the most money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxmb35 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 20 minutes ago, oldsox said: All arguments here make sense, or least most of them. But the underlying problem here is that players don't want to play for this team in this city. That is demonstrably false and you know that. Had we given either of them the money, they would have signed here, period. It's about the money, don't use too much energy trying to make it something it really isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 I hope Harper and Machado have all-star caliber seasons until they retire. The worst thing is if they fail and this FO says "we told you so". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 13 hours ago, Lillian said: And, so what will their excuse be, if and when they actually do develop some of the talent, as they approach arbitration and free agency. Maybe they'll claim that they can't spend the money to extend them, because they have to allocate the funds toward "next year's big Super Star free agent". When a loyal fan feels this much disdain for their favorite team's management, it's a very sad situation. Again, someone needs to be held accountable for this mess. By then they’ll have signed four or five average players for $40-60m apiece, and Hahn will point to it and tell us that the “money was spent.” Then Eloy is going to sign with the Tigers and lead their next window of contention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 *at a cattle auction* Auctioneer: Okay we're gonna open up the bidding Oklahoma rancher: $100! Texas rancher: $150 Kansas rancher: $155 Texas rancher: $160 Auctioneer: SOLD to the texas rancher! Oklahoma rancher: I don't understand why these cows hate oklahoma so much. Ah well, some day people will enjoy dog meat. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Hurtin Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 1 hour ago, fathom said: You can’t make this stuff up https://mobile.twitter.com/JamesFox917/status/1101451726966669312 *meow* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 LOL Mully and haugh, quite the tough interview there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 1 hour ago, oldsox said: All arguments here make sense, or least most of them. But the underlying problem here is that players don't want to play for this team in this city. How do you figure? Look at all the offers that leaked. Both players signed for the highest guaranteed dollars. This stuff isn’t rocket science. For once, the old analogy works backward: Hahn is trying to play 4D chess in damn game of checkers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 2 hours ago, fathom said: You can’t make this stuff up https://mobile.twitter.com/JamesFox917/status/1101451726966669312 And this is exactly why a large segment of the local media is willing to carry the water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 FYI I removed some posts that were too political and not really necessary to the topic at hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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