caulfield12 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/12/us/college-admission-cheating-scheme/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Aunt Becky on Netflix, going from Fuller House to Orange is the New Black Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LittleHurt05 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 This story is just amazing. Some of the kids didn't even know about it, then their parents created fake pictures of them pole vaulting. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 12, 2019 Author Share Posted March 12, 2019 https://news.yahoo.com/celebs-charged-with-fraud-in-buying-their-childrens-admission-to-top-colleges-180302288.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 3 hours ago, LittleHurt05 said: This story is just amazing. Some of the kids didn't even know about it, then their parents created fake pictures of them pole vaulting. ? This doesn't bother me as much as the bribes testing centers changing SAT question answers or having others take the exams. College athletics is full of bribery and slime anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 12, 2019 Author Share Posted March 12, 2019 (edited) https://finance.yahoo.com/news/felicity-huffman-and-lori-loughlin-reveal-how-to-ruin-kids-190801230.html College Admissions Scandal Reveals Worst Parents Ever There are also some prominent business and finance names, including Doug Hodge, the former CEO of investing giant Pimco, William McGlashan of investing firm TPG, and Gordon Caplan of law firm Wilkie Farr. The suit also charges fashion designer Mossimo Giannulli, who is Loughlin’s husband. But it does not name the actor William H. Macy, who is married to Huffman. The bribes in many cases were disguised as payments to a California college-prep service known as The Edge College & Career Network, and as donations to a California nonprofit known as The Key Worldwide Foundation. A man named William Singer ran both and was the alleged mastermind. Families typically made five- or six-figure payments to place their kids, with Singer bribing coaches as needed. He earned $25 million in this manner from 2011 to 2019, according to the indictment. One set of parents paid him $1.2 million to get their kid into Yale. Outrage flooded social media as the news of the cheating scandal broke. But responsible parents can take some pride in playing by the rules and raising their kids to succeed on merit rather than bribes. Opening every door for kids is horrible parenting, because it makes kids dependent on outside intervention to succeed. They never learn to be self-sufficient and can become fragile and needy. I researched the science of resilience for my 2012 book “Rebounders,” and discovered that kids who learn to surmount challenges on their own and even fail (in safe ways) learn how to excel in the real world. Shrewd parents help their kids develop the skills needed to open doors for themselves. It might not be illegal, but it’s a crime against your kids to carry them across every obstacle and prevent them from learning needed survival skills. Some parents do this to feed their own vanity, because kids are a kind of life accessory that must be as impressive as fancy jewelry or a vacation estate. Some commentary regarding Admission-gate characterizes it as an appalling microcosm of a new gilded age in which the rich are richer than ever and the rest can only look in from outside. But that’s not quite right. The perps in Admission-gate will suffer, if it turns out they actually committed crimes. The worst crimes, as the saying goes, are the ones that are legal. The wealthy enjoy the privilege of opportunity: they have access to all the education, financial resources and support systems needed to succeed. The biggest failure of American society at the moment is a shortage of opportunity. Too many Americans are stuck in lousy schools and limiting circumstances, without the resources to succeed. We should punish criminals, if that’s what they turn out to be. But we should provide more people the opportunities that would allow them to get ahead, on their own, without bribes or special treatment or pathologically overwrought parents. Edited March 13, 2019 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 13, 2019 Author Share Posted March 13, 2019 Steven Masera, 69, the accountant and financial officer for the Edge College & Career Network and the Key Worldwide Foundation, was also indicted, according to court documents. Masera and Mark Riddell, a private school counselor in Bradenton, Florida, allegedly worked closely with Singer in the scam, according to the indictment. Mikaela Sanford, 32, of Folsom, California, another employee of the Edge College & Career Network and the Key Worldwide Foundation, and David Sidoo, 59, of Vancouver, Canada, were also indicted for allegedly working closely with Singer to facilitate the scam, according to the indictment. Singer would allegedly instruct parents to seek extended time for the children to take entrance exams or obtain medical documentation that their child had a learning disability, according to the indictment. The parents were then told to get the location of the test changed to one of two testing centers, one in Houston and another in West Hollywood, California, where test administrators Niki Williams, 44, of Houston and Igor Dvorskiy, 52, of Sherman Oaks, California, helped carry out the scam, the indictment alleges. Riddell, 36, allegedly either took ACT and SAT tests for students whose parents had paid bribes to Singer, according to the indictment. "Singer typically paid Riddell $10,000 for each student's test," according to the indictment. Those charged in the probe include nine coaches at elite schools, two SAT and ACT exam administrators, one exam proctor, a college administrator and 33 parents, including Huffman and Loughlin. Huffman's husband, actor William H. Macy, was not indicted, but according to the court document he and Huffman were caught on a recorded conversation with a corroborating witness in the case, allegedly discussing a $15,000 payment to ensure their younger daughter scored high on a college entrance exam. Huffman was indicted on charges stemming from the $15,000 she allegedly disguised as a charitable donation so her older daughter could take part in the college entrance cheating scam, the indictment reads. But Huffman and Macy apparently decided not to go through with scheme for their younger daughter. At a hearing before a judge Tuesday afternoon in Los Angeles, Huffman answered "yes" to questions from the judge and acknowledged she understood the charges against her. Macy watched silently from the front row of the courtroom. Out on $250,000 bond. Live Updates: Ringleader pleads guilty in $25 million nationwide college admissions cheating scam AARON KATERSKY, BILL HUTCHINSON and MIKE LEVINE,Good Morning America 52 minutes ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Meanwhile parents that will walk a thousand miles, sneak across the border, to give their kids a better life are invaders looking for a handout. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 (edited) What has happened to parents since the baby boomer's parents? You know, the ones who were aloof, mean, took a belt on you if you got Fs in class rather than attack a teacher? Made you apply for college yourself? Made you get part time jobs during your high school years? Never went to your games? Yelled at you a lot? But let you be a kid, let you hang out and play unsupervised sports with friends? Gave you a bat and hardball and said "go have fun, come back by 8 p.m. in the summer" and took their chances on the 1 in a million chance a kidnapper might kidnap you? Seems to me the boomers themselves and each generation on has gotten worse in coddling the kids of today. The last generation of parents to get it was the generation that didn't want to be a buddy to their kids and run every aspect of their lives. This is a prime example. WOW! Bribes just to get 'em in the best colleges? This story is appalling. Life is odd in 2019. Edited March 25, 2019 by greg775 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Loughlin's kid was making a million a year on her youtube channel and now all her sponsors have left her. Ouch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 9 hours ago, greg775 said: What has happened to parents since the baby boomer's parents? You know, the ones who were aloof, mean, took a belt on you if you got Fs in class rather than attack a teacher? Made you apply for college yourself? Made you get part time jobs during your high school years? Never went to your games? Yelled at you a lot? But let you be a kid, let you hang out and play unsupervised sports with friends? Gave you a bat and hardball and said "go have fun, come back by 8 p.m. in the summer" and took their chances on the 1 in a million chance a kidnapper might kidnap you? Seems to me the boomers themselves and each generation on has gotten worse in coddling the kids of today. The last generation of parents to get it was the generation that didn't want to be a buddy to their kids and run every aspect of their lives. This is a prime example. WOW! Bribes just to get 'em in the best colleges? This story is appalling. Life is odd in 2019. You're comparing the wealthiest of the wealthy to your own life experience Greg. In the past, these were just called "donations" and usually involved some sort of building. This sums it up well: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Apparently, Pete Carroll is neck deep in this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 4 hours ago, Quin said: You're comparing the wealthiest of the wealthy to your own life experience Greg. In the past, these were just called "donations" and usually involved some sort of building. This sums it up well: I never thought of that. I don't know why Lori Laughlin just didn't give 100,000 to admissions. Good point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwritecode Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 4 hours ago, Quin said: You're comparing the wealthiest of the wealthy to your own life experience Greg. In the past, these were just called "donations" and usually involved some sort of building. This sums it up well: Maybe it's just me but paying people to take the kids ACT or SAT for them and bribing coaches to say the kids were athletes to get lower admission rates =/= donations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, Iwritecode said: Maybe it's just me but paying people to take the kids ACT or SAT for them and bribing coaches to say the kids were athletes to get lower admission rates =/= donations. Why is it not ok if the money to get someone around the rules goes to a private entity but it's ok if they just bribe the school directly to change the rules? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 5 hours ago, Quin said: You're comparing the wealthiest of the wealthy to your own life experience Greg. In the past, these were just called "donations" and usually involved some sort of building. This sums it up well: It is all about the layer of separation and the plausible deniability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwritecode Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 39 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Why is it not ok if the money to get someone around the rules goes to a private entity but it's ok if they just bribe the school directly to change the rules? Neither one is ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 12 hours ago, Quin said: You're comparing the wealthiest of the wealthy to your own life experience Greg. In the past, these were just called "donations" and usually involved some sort of building. This sums it up well: The problem is that while Huffman and Aunt Becky are rich, they aren't rich enough. $500k wont put your name on a building or get your kid in school when there is an endowment of billions of dollars. You need maybe 8 figures for these top private schools, Dr. Dre knew how to do it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 56 minutes ago, LittleHurt05 said: The problem is that while Huffman and Aunt Becky are rich, they aren't rich enough. $500k wont put your name on a building or get your kid in school when there is an endowment of billions of dollars. You need maybe 8 figures for these top private schools, Dr. Dre knew how to do it. That tweet and subsequent deletion was hilarious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 On 3/17/2019 at 9:01 PM, Texsox said: Meanwhile parents that will walk a thousand miles, sneak across the border, to give their kids a better life are invaders looking for a handout. And if their kid happens to make it to an elite college, they only got in to fill a minority quota. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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