Y2Jimmy0 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 8 minutes ago, bmags said: I just have a hard time believing Sox do that pre any mlb at bats. If it was after year 1 I get it. It seems remarkably risky. Is it really that different than signing Abreu or Robert? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Hombre Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said: Friendship with Hector Gomez ended! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Called out. What say you Hector? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 11 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said: If the Eloy deal was counting options, the Kingery deal would have been written as worth $66 million over 9 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 To think, the Evan Longoria contract pretty much started this whole thing and was actually criticized at the time. 6 years, $17.5M guaranteed, 3 team options of $7.5M, $11M & $11.5M in his age 28, 29 & 30 seasons ($3M buyout in the first year, so only $14.5M paid for the first 6 years of his career) and the contract was signed after he was held down to start the year, earning the extra year of control so the options covered his last year of ARB and 2 free agent seasons. Probably the most team friendly contract in the history of baseball, Andrew Friedman was just so far ahead of the curve it's incredible, the Shields and Crawford contracts were also absolute steals and those contracts came after they established themselves as major league contributors. 14 years, $44.9M guaranteed + 8 team option years to buy out the primes of 3 of the best players of the late aughts. AND all 3 went on to get big paydays after those contracts expired, $352.6M total guaranteed on their second contracts after turning 30. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 11 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: Is it really that different than signing Abreu or Robert? Absolutely it's different. Those players were on a market. The sox doing nothing have ~7 years of control at relatively fixed costs and not guaranteed. They have no one to bid against, they already own those years. How much do you add to those costs for an additional year? This is quite a bit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Hector not backing down either... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said: Hector not backing down either... Like I have said, I think they are both probably basically right, it is just comes down to how you view the contract in terms of either promised $ or potential $. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Wow...Hector wrong again. What a surprise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Reporters don’t use the phrase “time will tell”. They reports facts and leave it there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 11 minutes ago, flavum said: Reporters don’t use the phrase “time will tell”. They reports facts and leave it there. He’s reporting what he heard though and was called out for it. I think his response is appropriate as there isn’t a fact to report here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 20 minutes ago, Baron said: Wow...Hector wrong again. What a surprise. Hector was spot on about the white Sox offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted March 15, 2019 Author Share Posted March 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: He’s reporting what he heard though and was called out for it. I think his response is appropriate as there isn’t a fact to report here. Just now, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Hector was spot on about the white Sox offer. Yeah, his tweet is perfectly fine with me. American media DID shoot his reports down, they insisted on 7/175 to the point of exhaustion, and he ended up being right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 I think there is some truth to Hector’s reports and that conversations are on-going, but I still find 8/$100M unlikely. He’s probably got a counter-proposal coming out of Eloy’s camp and it will end being a bit less or with an additional option year. To Ken’s point, this would be an unprecedented contract for a pre-majors player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Hector was spot on about the white Sox offer. Yeah. Spot on, and he never backed down from what he said. I'm not sure about the Eloy rumor. It could still be true but not entirely accurate as he's stating it. Options, etc. could ultimately make it a 10 year/$100M+ deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrathofhahn Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Hector is fake news. His report never made sense from the get go. Surprised at the people here who really believed 8/100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 First, he called it an extension. Does that mean it would actually start after this season? Second, the Sox sent him down. If something was near, would that have happened? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Hector has a obvious in with someone in the Sox organization. He knew the exact details of the Sox offer to Machado, he knew Castillo's PED suspension and now hes reporting this. He may be a little off but I think he has somewhat proven himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baker Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Nelson Cruz has accumulated 32 War on his 10 full seasons or 3.2 per year. David Ortiz 50War in 15 seasons, another 3.2 per year. I’d take either of those careers for Eloy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, Baker said: Nelson Cruz has accumulated 32 War on his 10 full seasons or 3.2 per year. David Ortiz 50War in 15 seasons, another 3.2 per year. I’d take either of those careers for Eloy I'd prefer fewer steroids. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: I'd prefer fewer steroids. meh, they're all still on something I'm sure Edited March 15, 2019 by mqr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jose Abreu Posted March 15, 2019 Author Share Posted March 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Orlando said: Hector has a obvious in with someone in the Sox organization. He knew the exact details of the Sox offer to Machado, he knew Castillo's PED suspension and now hes reporting this. He may be a little off but I think he has somewhat proven himself. On the contrary, I think he's just really connected to players who have Dominican ties. That many of his tweets are Sox related is coincidental, IMO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, Orlando said: LoL. Hahn/MerkinSpeak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted March 15, 2019 Share Posted March 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Jose Abreu said: On the contrary, I think he's just really connected to players who have Dominican ties. That many of his tweets are Sox related is coincidental, IMO This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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