Bob Sacamano Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, Harper2Sox said: Machado is a future fat guy? The guy is on amazing shape. Are we being serious here? ? Full of awful takes in this thread this morning. Edited March 26, 2019 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Just now, TaylorStSox said: The guy who played 140+ games at SS in 2018 isn't a SS? Makes sense. Moving forward, I'd still rather have Moncada at 3rd anyway. Lol, nothing like doubling down on stupid. He’s played 3B the vast majority of his career. He asked the Orioles to play SS basically to improve his FA stock and prove he could play there. He did play SS for LAD, because ya know, their SS was hurt. Hes an elite 3B, and was going to play 3B no matter where he signed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Lol, nothing like doubling down on stupid. He’s played 3B the vast majority of his career. He asked the Orioles to play SS basically to improve his FA stock and prove he could play there. He did play SS for LAD, because ya know, their SS was hurt. Hes an elite 3B, and was going to play 3B no matter where he signed. Hes not elite at anything. Hes very good. Edited March 26, 2019 by TaylorStSox 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Just now, TaylorStSox said: Hes not elite at anything. Did Machado kick your dog or something? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Just now, TaylorStSox said: Hes not elite at anything. Hes very good. You’re wrong dude. May as well admit you don’t know what you’re talking about and move along. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 1 minute ago, ChiSox59 said: You’re wrong dude. May as well admit you don’t know what you’re talking about and move along. If he hates Machado, it certainly isn't for what he can do on a baseball field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, soxfan2014 said: Did Machado kick your dog or something? I said hes very good. Wtf do you want? Hes not great. Hes not elite. Elite players don't come down to signing for the Sox or Padres. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, soxfan2014 said: If he hates Machado, it certainly isn't for what he can do on a baseball field. Who said I hate Machado? Holy hyperbole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 9 minutes ago, TaylorStSox said: I said hes very good. Wtf do you want? Hes not great. Hes not elite. Elite players don't come down to signing for the Sox or Padres. Players who are not great nor elite do not sign for $300 millions. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, thxfrthmmrs said: Players who are not great nor elite do not sign for $300 millions. Is Giancarlo Stanton great? I certainly don't think so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Tony said: You're very bad at this. At what? Is talking about baseball a contest? Edited March 26, 2019 by TaylorStSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Just now, Tony said: Being a somewhat competent baseball observer. Because we disagree about a player being "great?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Just now, Tony said: If it is.....you lost. Cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 (edited) Soxtalk is becoming Facebook. "You lost." "Hot take." "Lol" Good god. Edited March 26, 2019 by TaylorStSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 14 minutes ago, TaylorStSox said: Is Giancarlo Stanton great? I certainly don't think so. Giancarlo is not elite but he's great if you take the subjectivity out of the equation. 40 WAR before age 29 season. 34.5 WAR during 7 year peak, and average 7 year peak for HOF'er at his position is 42.1 WAR. Manny got bigger AAV than Stanton, and is considered to be better subjectively and statistically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 10 minutes ago, Tony said: You're very bad at this. The only thing you can really take issue with is the "future fat guy" comment. He was a SS last year. He wasn't very good there. Hes not elite, but he is very good overall. I'm not really seeing the issue. Elite players don't sign with the Padres or Sox. I guess not thinking Machado is a future hall of famer is somehow offensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, thxfrthmmrs said: Giancarlo is not elite Agreed. Yet he signed a $300M+ contract. Edited March 26, 2019 by TaylorStSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 7 minutes ago, Tony said: Coming from the guy that just came in with "hot takes" that would make Stephen A. Smith blush... You don't like it here? Who is Stephen Smith? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 7 minutes ago, TaylorStSox said: Who is Stephen Smith? Do you live under a rock? I am now convinced you live under a rock. Or aren't much of a sports fan. 10 minutes ago, TaylorStSox said: The only thing you can really take issue with is the "future fat guy" comment. He was a SS last year. He wasn't very good there. Hes not elite, but he is very good overall. I'm not really seeing the issue. Elite players don't sign with the Padres or Sox. I guess not thinking Machado is a future hall of famer is somehow offensive. We can certainly take issue with you saying that he is not "elite" at anything. Manny Machado is a phenomenal defensive 3B. You said he wasn't good defensively. The list of better defenders at 3B is at most 2 players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, TaylorStSox said: The only thing you can really take issue with is the "future fat guy" comment. He was a SS last year. He wasn't very good there. Hes not elite, but he is very good overall. I'm not really seeing the issue. Elite players don't sign with the Padres or Sox. I guess not thinking Machado is a future hall of famer is somehow offensive. No one would disagree with you about him not being an elite shortstop. In fact, no one is even saying that he is one. It's not the position he will be playing go forward. This is why you come off as not being a good baseball observer or not paying attention to some here. Edited March 26, 2019 by soxfan2014 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 20 minutes ago, TaylorStSox said: The only thing you can really take issue with is the "future fat guy" comment. He was a SS last year. He wasn't very good there. Hes not elite, but he is very good overall. I'm not really seeing the issue. Elite players don't sign with the Padres or Sox. I guess not thinking Machado is a future hall of famer is somehow offensive. You really think him signing with the Padres is a good argument for why he's not elite? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneDog847 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 3 hours ago, Sarava said: I don't get not liking the Jimenez deal. Even if he ends up being terrible, in big league dollar terms, it's a small loss. If he ends up being good, it's a great deal and buys the extra year. Now Machado - that's a different story. I'll be disappointed if Sox fans let JR, Hahn and KW off the hook on this one. That's what they want - for us all to forget it and move on. There isn't much we can do as Sox fans except take the beatings like a man and hope for better days. Attendance will be low again this year as the team sputters through another rough year. JR can't live forever. We may just have to hunker down for another decade or so and wait the old man out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 14 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Do you live under a rock? I am now convinced you live under a rock. Or aren't much of a sports fan. We can certainly take issue with you saying that he is not "elite" at anything. Manny Machado is a phenomenal defensive 3B. You said he wasn't good defensively. The list of better defenders at 3B is at most 2 players. I would never call myself a sports fan, that's for sure. I like baseball though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, OmarComing25 said: You really think him signing with the Padres is a good argument for why he's not elite? Absolutely. How often are truly elite players not pursued by a single big market team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Uhh, yeah Stanton has Elite power. He is absolutely one of the best (read Elite) power hitters in baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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