SonofaRoache Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 7 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: ? the future is bright with or without Manny... What if this scout would have said he didn't like Robert? His opinion would be disregarded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 minute ago, SonofaRoache said: What if this scout would have said he didn't like Robert? His opinion would be disregarded. Have we heard that anywhere? I’ve only seen glowing reports from scouts and high prospect rankings despite his relative lack of production last year. That tells me the best is yet to come. Seems health is the only obstacle at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightsOnMintSt Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 I don’t know why, but the more I think about it, I really think he will get sent to the minors before getting the call up. I don’t know why, and I don’t know for how long, but it’s just a feeling I have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted March 21, 2019 Author Share Posted March 21, 2019 45 minutes ago, DirtySox said: "Head cold" is code for Tommy John right? No, it's code for "taking a physical so that his contract can be finalized and he can return to Major League camp in the coming days", hopefully 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said: No, it's code for "taking a physical so that his contract can be finalized and he can return to Major League camp in the coming days", hopefully That’s absolutely what it is 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 minute ago, mqr said: That’s absolutely what it is Totally. Just making light of the injury issues that have ravaged the farm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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southsider2k5 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 36 minutes ago, aeichhor said: So 6/40 up front, with at least $3 coming in the last year of a buyout. Very nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capital G Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 No point now to keep him down. He should make the opening day roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 25 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: So 6/40 up front, with at least $3 coming in the last year of a buyout. Very nice. It's pretty good, the arb years seem on board with 2019 prices, that they then prepaid in order to get another year. Yesterday i thought it was a pretty good deal for eloy, and it still is, but seeing the year by year, really pleased. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Can someone please explain to me why the fuck he wouldn't be on the opening day roster? Because they'd have to clear a 40 man spot? I thought they had an open spot? I can't even fathom keeping him down because of some stupid ass concern trolling over the appearance of impropriety wrt to his situation prior to signing the contract and service time manipulation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said: Can someone please explain to me why the fuck he wouldn't be on the opening day roster? 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 14 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said: Can someone please explain to me why the fuck he wouldn't be on the opening day roster? Because they'd have to clear a 40 man spot? I thought they had an open spot? I can't even fathom keeping him down because of some stupid ass concern trolling over the appearance of impropriety wrt to his situation prior to signing the contract and service time manipulation. Eloy's already on the 40-man so that doesn't matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Just now, Sleepy Harold said: Eloy's already on the 40-man so that doesn't matter. so the only reason (to keep him down) is to make it appear they weren't going to manipulate his service time? If so, that's...not a reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 minute ago, chitownsportsfan said: so the only reason (to keep him down) is to make it appear they weren't going to manipulate his service time? If so, that's...not a reason. Yeah essentially, or if they "want to build up some confidence before he debuts" or however they'd try to spin that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 8 minutes ago, Tony said: And I still haven't heard a good excuse to who is going to file a grievance if they did call him up. I understand it would basically confirm service time manipulation, but again, the Sox just have Eloy $40+ is guaranteed money, and the negotiations have been going on for months. That had to come up at some point. So if Eloy isn't filing a grievance, who is? Eloy's in the union now so I'd have to think that they would respect his wishes and NOT filed a grievance on his behalf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said: Eloy's in the union now so I'd have to think that they would respect his wishes and NOT filed a grievance on his behalf. Eloy can't file a service time manipulation grievance any longer as he is under a MLB contract now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Eloy can't file a service time manipulation grievance any longer as he is under a MLB contract now. right but couldn't the Union? I have no idea why they would, but it seems like something they might press for leverage because it is pretty good evidence that he was ready, they just held him down for service time. Edited March 21, 2019 by chitownsportsfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 I actually assumed there was a logistical or rule-based issue complicating it, but if its just for appearances that's absurd. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 55 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said: Can someone please explain to me why the fuck he wouldn't be on the opening day roster? Because they'd have to clear a 40 man spot? I thought they had an open spot? Because our attendance sucks as no one goes to the games. 2nd home game is traditionally one of the worst attended games of the season. Mid-series callup after the off day and a Saturday home game, it would become one of the better attended games. Anything to create excitement and get a gate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, Buehrle>Wood said: Because our attendance sucks as no one goes to the games. 2nd home game is traditionally one of the worst attended games of the season. Mid-series callup after the off day and a Saturday home game, it would become one of the better attended games. Anything to create excitement and get a gate. oh my god this is spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 They can't argue that they manipulated his service time this year given that they signed him to a MLB contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 40 minutes ago, Tony said: And I still haven't heard a good excuse to who is going to file a grievance if they did call him up. I understand it would basically confirm service time manipulation, but again, the Sox just have Eloy $40+ is guaranteed money, and the negotiations have been going on for months. That had to come up at some point. So if Eloy isn't filing a grievance, who is? The next guy they cram for service time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 20 minutes ago, bmags said: oh my god this is spot on. Now if that's even close to true then it's grievance time, yikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 4 hours ago, mqr said: Nothing to see here, move along Not only is Tommy John one of the most famous Sox names, he was also traded for Dick Allen as I recall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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