OneDog847 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: No way in hell they should be pleased with Bobby Witt Jr but that's who I'm hoping they select. If they come out of this Rick Hahn reign of terror with one high ceiling potential superstar it would at least be something to look forward to. Hahn's time as GM has been an unmitigated disaster and it's past time to start doing things differently. Stop taking the "safe" guy and take the best damn player on the board. Amen! I don't think there is anyway in hell that Hostetler and company take a high schooler at #3 though. They will do what they have done every year since 2015 and take the best college player available in the first round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Well Hostetler and co should be worried about keeping their jobs and making the correct pick. Even Reinsdorf can't allow for this much incompetency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted March 19, 2019 Author Share Posted March 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: No way in hell they should be pleased with Bobby Witt Jr but that's who I'm hoping they select. If they come out of this Rick Hahn reign of terror with one high ceiling potential superstar it would at least be something to look forward to. Hahn's time as GM has been an unmitigated disaster and it's past time to start doing things differently. Stop taking the "safe" guy and take the best damn player on the board. They have multiple high ceiling potential superstars in their farm system. They have an opportunity to add another one in June. Their drafts have been questionable under Hostetler but the jury is still out on all of those picks. Why would they not be pleased with Bobby Witt if that's who you want them to select? I'm confused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 No they don't. They have Eloy and Robert and a few potential league average players. No one else is a potential superstar and Robert is a long shot to ever reach his ceiling. They do have a chance to select one this June and I hope they don't mess it up again by selecting another league avg player. I disagree with the premise that any team is pleased selecting third. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted March 19, 2019 Author Share Posted March 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: No they don't. They have Eloy and Robert and a few potential league average players. No one else is a potential superstar and Robert is a long shot to ever reach his ceiling. They do have a chance to select one this June and I hope they don't mess it up again by selecting another league avg player. I disagree with the premise that any team is pleased selecting third. Did you read the article? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 I am not a scout and will not scout or know how swings or anything work but I do still really like the profile of CJ Abrams and if he is graded closely I'd be attracted to cutting a deal. Starting to sound like he may start to slide into the back half of the top ten though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisox378 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 My favorite college hitter is Ryan Ward from Bryant University. Sweet compact swing, can play catcher. If I had to pick a #2 college hitter it I guess would be Andrew Vaughn, although not hot on the high leg kick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrathofhahn Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 CJ Abrams may have the highest ceiling of anyone in the draft. Draft for ceiling. Other guys we should be looking at is Malone. Espino. Ealy. Allan. Hinds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted March 19, 2019 Author Share Posted March 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, wrathofhahn said: CJ Abrams may have the highest ceiling of anyone in the draft. Draft for ceiling. Other guys we should be looking at is Malone. Espino. Ealy. Allan. Hinds. It's not the only thing to consider though. Especially at #3 overall. I love CJ Abrams. I don't think he stays at SS though. Witt will which makes him the better prospect. Proximity to majors also comes into play with Vaughn and Rutschman. Those dudes are elite and could be in the big leagues within 18 months potentially. Lots of different factors to consider. I would not be taking a pitcher at #3. Keep drafting bats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisox378 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, wrathofhahn said: CJ Abrams may have the highest ceiling of anyone in the draft. Draft for ceiling. Other guys we should be looking at is Malone. Espino. Ealy. Allan. Hinds. Thats what we did with Hawkins but we couldnt develop him. But watching Abrams swing is sweet, Kid looks like he has got alot of growing to do( I mean body wise, hopefully baseball wise too.) Edited March 19, 2019 by Chisox378 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisox378 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: It's not the only thing to consider though. Especially at #3 overall. I love CJ Abrams. I don't think he stays at SS though. Witt will which makes him the better prospect. Proximity to majors also comes into play with Vaughn and Rutschman. Those dudes are elite and could be in the big leagues within 18 months potentially. Lots of different factors to consider. I would not be taking a pitcher at #3. Keep drafting bats. Andrew Vaughn an impressive 44 BB to 18 K's in 2018. 20 BB to 8 k's this season so far. Edited March 19, 2019 by Chisox378 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 When you only take 1 high ceiling position player in a decade there is a good chance it will fail. But regardless, drafting a high school with big power but high likelihood of being a corner outfielder isn't the greatest upside play in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisox378 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 If a kid hasnt learned how to walk and not strike out at the college level, I doubt good plate discipline and contact will flow into the minors and majors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, Chisox378 said: If a kid hasnt learned how to walk and not strike out at the college level, I doubt good plate discipline and contact will flow into the minors and majors. I mostly agree but who is this referring to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisox378 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Im just praising Vaughn and Ward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted March 19, 2019 Author Share Posted March 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, Chisox378 said: Im just praising Vaughn and Ward. I had not heard of Ward until 10 minutes ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisox378 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: I had not heard of Ward until 10 minutes ago. Shhh. good, keep it a secret, maybe we can get him in later rounds. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Ahead of the 2017 draft there was a lot of rumors of jeren kendall to the white sox. I remember actually going through a ton of college hitters looking for the highest k rates while still being successful. I wanna say after 18% k rate was when you started to get into outlier territory. I think Judge was 22%, corey ray was 13% in his junior year but 20% his sophomore. Kendall was 25%. There really is a point where it's too unlikely they can handle mlb pitching. Kendall had a .650 ops last year with a 27% k rate in A+ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisox378 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 (edited) If we have the 3rd pick we should shoot for a Frank Thomas type player. At Auburn The Big Hurt had 153 BB to 53 K's. That flowed over into his MLB career where he had 1667 BB to 1397 K's. What a hitter! Edited March 19, 2019 by Chisox378 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Logan Wyatt come on down!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 11 minutes ago, Chisox378 said: If we have the 3rd pick we should shoot for a Frank Thomas type player. At Auburn The Big Hurt had 153 BB to 53 K's. That flowed over into his MLB career where he had 1667 BB to 1397 K's. What a hitter! Nah, we should pass on the Hall of Famer, we should draft the bust instead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisox378 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: Logan Wyatt come on down!!!!! Nice call, this kid has a better swing than Vaughn and Ward. Not as much power as Vaughn, but Id still take him over Vaughn, power can be developed as long as he keeps his approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Abrams is how big right now? Still growing? His fallback position is CF, yes? Where does his speed grade out? Where is Riley Greene projecting to be drafted at the moment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zisk Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 4 hours ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: No they don't. They have Eloy and Robert and a few potential league average players. No one else is a potential superstar and Robert is a long shot to ever reach his ceiling. They do have a chance to select one this June and I hope they don't mess it up again by selecting another league avg player. I disagree with the premise that any team is pleased selecting third. I don't agree about only 2 guys. Kopech and Cease could still be great. Its not probable, but it is possible. If Madrigal reaches his potential, would he be considered a big star? I honestly don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, zisk said: I don't agree about only 2 guys. Kopech and Cease could still be great. Its not probable, but it is possible. If Madrigal reaches his potential, would he be considered a big star? I honestly don't know. If Madrigal learns to turn on the ball and start pulling it for doubles and 12-15 homers per year, he’ll be the Derek Jeter and franchise fan favorite that Gordon Beckham proclaimed himself to be in 2009. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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