southsider2k5 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 13 minutes ago, turnin' two said: And why would this be surprising anyways, they had years to plan for this years free agency and it yielded nothing. These deals are agreed to in advance, unlike free agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, bmags said: The Sox are in every avenue terrified of younger players and will pay for older, more certain production over and over. This statement doesn't seem to describe much of our offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 31 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: It means we have spent about $2.5 million, tops. Yeah, it’s pretty disappointing if true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenericUserName Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 I'm less concerned about not already having deals if the new Cuban agreement goes through. There are several really good players on the rumored list of eligible players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 6 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: This statement doesn't seem to describe much of our offseason. They take college players over high schoolers They only pay up for over 18 year old international talent that played in professional leagues They targeted AAA older “blocked” prospects during a rebuild over younger, raw talent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Just now, bmags said: They take college players over high schoolers They only pay up for over 18 year old international talent that played in professional leagues They targeted AAA older “blocked” prospects during a rebuild over younger, raw talent But then they sign Eloy and miss out on the veteran they supposedly targeted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 I just looked at this guy’s Cuban stats and yuck. Was hoping they would be better for a 22 year old. https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=sanche000yol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, bmags said: They take college players over high schoolers They only pay up for over 18 year old international talent that played in professional leagues They targeted AAA older “blocked” prospects during a rebuild over younger, raw talent They trade talented 17 year olds for James Shields... ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 6 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: But then they sign Eloy and miss out on the veteran they supposedly targeted. The actual application of the theory would be signing/acquiring $45 million of over 30 players over paying the younger higher upside/greater financial risk player, not signing a player they already have to an extension. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenericUserName Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 A comparison of the two years Robert and Sanchez were both in CNS. Keep in mind Sanchez is a year older and had a down year in '17-'18, but is a good defensive SS. Luis Robert: Register Batting Year Age AgeDif Tm Lg Lev Aff G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB 2015-16 17 -11.0 Ciego de Avila CNS Fgn 68 313 269 68 82 10 2 5 29 8 2 32 46 .305 .384 .413 .796 111 3 3 8 1 8 2016-17 18 -10.5 Ciego de Avila CNS Fgn 53 232 182 51 73 12 2 12 40 11 6 38 30 .401 .526 .687 1.213 125 5 11 0 1 10 Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Original Table Generated 3/25/2019. Yolbert Sanchez: Register Batting Year Age AgeDif Tm Lg Lev Aff G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB 2015-16 -- Isla de la Juventud CNS Fgn 59 191 175 21 49 7 2 1 17 1 5 10 21 .280 .323 .360 .683 63 6 1 5 0 0 2016-17 -- Industriales CNS Fgn 37 139 123 16 43 1 0 0 12 4 3 6 10 .350 .391 .358 .749 44 3 3 6 1 0 Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Original Table Generated 3/25/2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 I agree with guys like SS2K and bmags on this. This is puzzling. I have it from a really solid source though that it's highly possible. He's close to big league ready but I have the same questions as others. They shouldn't have money laying around. They've had two years to plan for this class. They also don't need near major league ready infielders using this avenue of talent procurement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: I agree with guys like SS2K and bmags on this. This is puzzling. I have it from a really solid source though that it's highly possible. He's close to big league ready but I have the same questions as others. They shouldn't have money laying around. They've had two years to plan for this class. They also don't need near major league ready infielders using this avenue of talent procurement. When he first was named eligible Longenhagen said his agent said he had a 2 million offer in the next class already, do you think that was the Sox? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Yolmer's gotta go if we get this guy. Hopefully he'll take Yonder with as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 1 minute ago, bmags said: When he first was named eligible Longenhagen said his agent said he had a 2 million offer in the next class already, do you think that was the Sox? I'm assuming so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 1 minute ago, ron883 said: Yolmer's gotta go if we get this guy. Hopefully he'll take Yonder with as well I've heard that Sanchez is a major league ready defender today. Plus arm, speed and defense at SS. He needs work offensively though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: I'm assuming so. At my most charitable reading, at least that could indicate Sox were talking with him earlier and trying to behind the scenes to push him to 2019 instead of 2018. Basically that he was part of the “2019 plan”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 8 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: I've heard that Sanchez is a major league ready defender today. Plus arm, speed and defense at SS. He needs work offensively though. So basically he's Jose Iglesias 2.0? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Whitesox27 said: So basically he's Jose Iglesias 2.0? I mean it kind of sounds like it, yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: I mean it kind of sounds like it, yeah. A defensive wizard like that has value, but it would be puzzling since they already have Anderson at that spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 I don't see it as that puzzling if he was part of the 2019 plan and they were confident he was pushing back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenericUserName Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Obviously small sample, but he did not perform well against international competition while others who stand out did at least okay. https://u18bwc.wbsc.org/en/2015/team-stats/CUB/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 12 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: I don't see it as that puzzling if he was part of the 2019 plan and they were confident he was pushing back. Seems pretty unlikely IMO, but who the fuck knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 8 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Seems pretty unlikely IMO, but who the fuck knows. Seems pretty likely to me. This was from some time back. Which led me to believe the Sox were that team and they felt they could make him wait with their Cuban track record. Whether the kid is any good or not, who knows. Hasnt hit yet, that's for sure. https://twitter.com/longenhagen/status/1092852624989122560?s=20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 58 minutes ago, ron883 said: Yolmer's gotta go if we get this guy. Hopefully he'll take Yonder with as well The fuck he does. Yolbert and Yolmer Sanchez is marketing dreams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 (edited) Maybe we are expecting too much from this guy and the Sox just want him as a utility infielder backup for next season. Madrigal will replace Yolmer at 2B and Yolmer may be gone with how expensive he has gotten via salary arbitration ($4.625 million). Maybe they view Yolbert as a backup infielder with potential upside. Edited March 26, 2019 by Harper2Sox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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