caulfield12 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, timbo8 said: yeah true but who would they get to replace theo if he leaves? They will have plenty of candidates. Ricketts will promise to fix what’s broken often and loudly. Inside the organization itself, there are 2-3 candidates. It just depends on how much more Ricketts is willing to spend. They’re going to need at least one starting pitcher (to replace Hamels) and another solid RH reliever at the very least. Russell will be dumped on someone...probably a tanking team like the Royals or Tigers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 1 minute ago, caulfield12 said: They will have plenty of candidates. Ricketts will promise to fix what’s broken often and loudly. Inside the organization itself, there are 2-3 candidates. It just depends on how much more Ricketts is willing to spend. They’re going to need at least one starting pitcher (to replace Hamels) and another solid RH reliever at the very least. Russell will be dumped on someone...probably a tanking team like the Royals or Tigers. If you think finding a replacement for Hamels is going to do the trick, you're wrong. Their pitching blows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 13 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: That’s not really the case because the Cards and Brewers have their weaknesses and FA losses coming up. Cubs have no choice but to be all-in at least one last time with the new network asking for $4-6 extra per month to all cable subscribers... I think they try to get 1 more year in, but at the same time KB and I think Baez are not interested in signing extensions. They are going to have to make some decisions this winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Just now, BackDoorBreach said: I think they try to get 1 more year in, but at the same time KB and I think Baez are not interested in signing extensions. They are going to have to make some decisions this winter. Well, that’s understandable with Rizzo getting older and Contreras the other core piece...it’s pretty obvious catchers eventually break down, so they might move him to the outfield to preserve his bat. The problem is that Almora, Happ, Schwarber, Russell and Soler never progressed to the levels expected. On paper, they have a pretty decent rotation...and a very shaky bullpen from the RH side with Kimbrel, Strop and Edwards, Jr., all going backwards this season, and only Wick really stepping up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Well, that’s understandable with Rizzo getting older and Contreras the other core piece...it’s pretty obvious catchers eventually break down, so they might move him to the outfield to preserve his bat. The problem is that Almora, Happ, Schwarber, Russell and Soler never progressed to the levels expected. On paper, they have a pretty decent rotation...and a very shaky bullpen from the RH side with Kimbrel, Strop and Edwards, Jr., all going backwards this season, and only Wick really stepping up. Soler has progressed now, haha. Just think about the players they have traded. Torres, Soler, Eloy, Cease. That’s a lot of talent to lose to still try to win year after year. Since their network is starting up, Theo can’t pull a mini-rebuild if he wanted to but it would make a lot of sense to trade Rizzo and even Bryant if they would rather keep Baez and Contreras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, Moan4Yoan said: Soler has progressed now, haha. Just think about the players they have traded. Torres, Soler, Eloy, Cease. That’s a lot of talent to lose to still try to win year after year. Since their network is starting up, Theo can’t pull a mini-rebuild if he wanted to but it would make a lot of sense to trade Rizzo and even Bryant if they would rather keep Baez and Contreras. That’s not even counting Candelario and Paredes, along with Vogelbach. The former has struggled, but he had a solid rookie year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: That’s not even counting Candelario and Paredes, along with Vogelbach. The former has struggled, but he had a solid rookie year. Candelario doesn’t look like he will be a guy they will miss. But yeah, definitely Paredes. Vogelbach they won’t miss because he’s a DH but they obviously didn’t sell him very high. Edited September 21, 2019 by Moan4Yoan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 28 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Well, that’s understandable with Rizzo getting older and Contreras the other core piece...it’s pretty obvious catchers eventually break down, so they might move him to the outfield to preserve his bat. The problem is that Almora, Happ, Schwarber, Russell and Soler never progressed to the levels expected. On paper, they have a pretty decent rotation...and a very shaky bullpen from the RH side with Kimbrel, Strop and Edwards, Jr., all going backwards this season, and only Wick really stepping up. I think the Cubs would gladly take Schwarber having a .852 OPS annually. His defense sucks though. The rest of the guys you listed I agree with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Tony said: Seriously, there are some I'm forgetting I'm sure. Hell, add Kimbrell to the list at this point. Few of my Cubs buddies are starting to hate the Jorge Soler for Wade Davis trade now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Really makes me happy this choke job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Go Cub? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 (edited) 22 minutes ago, daa84 said: Really makes me happy this choke job And the Brewers are currently leading the Pirates 5-1 in the 5th. This is an epic choke job. Very tasty. Edited September 22, 2019 by Moan4Yoan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Brewers with a 3 game lead in the WC with seven left to play, reminiscent of 2008 Sox after Quentin went down. Still wouldn’t be surprised by another play-in game, except for the fact the Cubs don’t play well on the road this year. Mets were almost 1/2 gb of Cubs but lost to Cincy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Brewers with a 3 game lead in the WC with seven left to play, reminiscent of 2008 Sox after Quentin went down. Still wouldn’t be surprised by another play-in game, except for the fact the Cubs don’t play well on the road this year. Mets were almost 1/2 gb of Cubs but lost to Cincy. The Cubs have to play St. Louis 4 more times. The Brewers face the Pirates one more time and then the Reds and Rockies. It’s ova. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NWINFan Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 I find it amusing that "Hope Springs Eternal" Cub fans are ready to eat their own at the first sign of trouble. Suddenly, the brain trust of Theo and Maddon aren't so brilliant anymore. Meanwhile the 9-8 loss to St. Louis will go down as one of their biggest chokes. They should have put that game away in the first and then they blew it in the ninth. I guess the magic wore out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 1 hour ago, NWINFan said: I find it amusing that "Hope Springs Eternal" Cub fans are ready to eat their own at the first sign of trouble. Suddenly, the brain trust of Theo and Maddon aren't so brilliant anymore. Meanwhile the 9-8 loss to St. Louis will go down as one of their biggest chokes. They should have put that game away in the first and then they blew it in the ninth. I guess the magic wore out. I’m sure twitter isn’t a great sign of actual temperature of fans (and I know in the heat of a collapse like that I’d also be pissed) but I have definitely been surprised by the anger at the team. Meaning fans clamoring to no longer have to root for this same core. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Also holy crap I’ve never seen this before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melton1972 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 22 minutes ago, bmags said: Also holy crap I’ve never seen this before This looks like something out of pre- 1920s baseball. Umpire letting Cardinals pitcher throw while Cubs manager and two players stand around batters box. Imagine that happening today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
35thstreetswarm Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Kind of crazy that the Cubs will likely come out of this “dynasty window” with only two division titles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timbo8 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, 35thstreetswarm said: Kind of crazy that the Cubs will likely come out of this “dynasty window” with only two division titles. that what happens if you bulid a farm system but sell it all later wiyhough thinking about saving it for later Edited September 22, 2019 by timbo8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 They didn’t call him Mad Dog for nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 That looked like Bryce Harper's injury from a year or two ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 What the hell is Joe Maddon doing lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Cubs just blew another one. You can’t make this stuff up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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