southsider2k5 Posted October 17, 2003 Share Posted October 17, 2003 You've been saying from the beginning that Kobe is guilty. If you deny that, you have more severe issues than I ever could have imagined. Go find it. Aint gonna happen... For some reason my "Sex, Lies, and Politics" board only goes back 10 pages, and it doesn't have our original Kobe discussions where it was obvious that you felt he was guilty. Are you saying you don't think Kobe is guilty? You aren't doing it right. You have to set your preferences at the bottom. The default is just 30 days, change that to all posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clujer420 Posted October 17, 2003 Share Posted October 17, 2003 You've been saying from the beginning that Kobe is guilty. If you deny that, you have more severe issues than I ever could have imagined. Go find it. Aint gonna happen... For some reason my "Sex, Lies, and Politics" board only goes back 10 pages, and it doesn't have our original Kobe discussions where it was obvious that you felt he was guilty. Are you saying you don't think Kobe is guilty? You aren't doing it right. You have to set your preferences at the bottom. The default is just 30 days, change that to all posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniBob72 Posted October 17, 2003 Share Posted October 17, 2003 She's as much a whore as Kobe Bryant is. Nobody deserves to be raped, but people still need to show some judgment. If I walk through a dangerous neighborhood at night, I don't deserve to be mugged but I am guilty of poor judgment. I can't believe that we are hearing all of the evidence. It is so obvious from what we are hearing that the case is weak, I can't believe an experienced prosecutor would go to trial with such a weak case. There must be something we don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clujer420 Posted October 17, 2003 Share Posted October 17, 2003 She's as much a whore as Kobe Bryant is. Nobody deserves to be raped, but people still need to show some judgment. If I walk through a dangerous neighborhood at night, I don't deserve to be mugged but I am guilty of poor judgment. I can't believe that we are hearing all of the evidence. It is so obvious from what we are hearing that the case is weak, I can't believe an experienced prosecutor would go to trial with such a weak case. There must be something we don't know. I don't know what that something could be. - The detective in charge keeps changing his story - The accuser is a mess - The first person to come into contact with her after the "rape" said she was fine - No marks on Kobe's body nor any marks on the girl's neck But you're right, unless there's a bombshell, the prosecution has nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted October 17, 2003 Share Posted October 17, 2003 Yes, seen the light. His guilt or innocence was never in question in my eyes. Hmmm.. you NEVER thought he was guilty..? Not a possibility..? You sure about that...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted October 17, 2003 Share Posted October 17, 2003 Give me a break Steff. You bring up my mom or sister walking to their car in a dark alley and getting raped. Well, ya know, doing that and taking a person you have been flirting with, through employee walkways to get to his room, then kissing him is so similar to that. That is the f***ing DUMBEST comparison I have ever heard. Good for you to see the light. Ya sure as hell didn't feel like that until recently. Granted, I know there is new facts which are huge in the case. I'll leave ya only on that, because everyone ws going on 'he say, she say.' But, ya were bias until know. I am bias too, but ya can not say ya were not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted October 17, 2003 Share Posted October 17, 2003 Hey Clu... you're a liar. http://www.soxtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=7842&hl= http://www.soxtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=7760&hl= http://www.soxtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=7351&hl= http://www.soxtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=7292&hl= http://www.soxtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=7207&hl= http://www.soxtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=7248&hl= There's more to. And there's a real gem in there where you were wavering... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted October 17, 2003 Share Posted October 17, 2003 Hey Clu... you're a liar. http://www.soxtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=7842&hl= http://www.soxtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=7760&hl= http://www.soxtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=7351&hl= http://www.soxtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=7292&hl= http://www.soxtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=7207&hl= http://www.soxtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=7248&hl= There's more to. And there's a real gem in there where you were wavering... I am not going to read them all, because in the first one ya said the case should go straight to court. Well if it did that then we wouldn't be where we are now, would we. I will take the rest as wish-wash too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted October 17, 2003 Share Posted October 17, 2003 Give me a break Steff. You bring up my mom or sister walking to their car in a dark alley and getting raped. Well, ya know, doing that and taking a person you have been flirting with, through employee walkways to get to his room, then kissing him is so similar to that. That is the f***ing DUMBEST comparison I have ever heard. Good for you to see the light. Ya sure as hell didn't feel like that until recently. Granted, I know there is new facts which are huge in the case. I'll leave ya only on that, because everyone ws going on 'he say, she say.' But, ya were bias until know. I am bias too, but ya can not say ya were not. Steve.. are you at all able to think hypothetically...? If so... go back and read my post. I didn't say s*** about this case... I commented on your specific comment. :banghead And no Steve.. I was not biased. I listed several of the threads up there. Go take a look. And yes.. I was 50/50 until last week... did ya come up with that "recently" thing on your own or did you type it in there AFTER I posted it.. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted October 17, 2003 Share Posted October 17, 2003 Hey Clu... you're a liar. http://www.soxtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=7842&hl= http://www.soxtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=7760&hl= http://www.soxtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=7351&hl= http://www.soxtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=7292&hl= http://www.soxtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=7207&hl= http://www.soxtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=7248&hl= There's more to. And there's a real gem in there where you were wavering... I am not going to read them all, because in the first one ya said the case should go straight to court. Well if it did that then we wouldn't be where we are now, would we. I will take the rest as wish-wash too. ROTFLMAO!!! Nice try kiddo.... Here's what I said: QUOTE (Koch This @ Jul 31 2003, 12:26 PM) Interesting. Sounds like it was forced for sure, but who knows, i just want all this stuff to come out in court. No kidding. Jim and I were just talking about it on the way back from lunch and we agree that the trial should just start tomorrow and get this out of the way. Forget this 6 month BS. I don't know if the rumor mill will be able to handle 6 months of inuendo's. Clearly, to most, this will explain itself as not wanting to deal with all the rumors. :dips*** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted October 17, 2003 Share Posted October 17, 2003 Well if it did that then we wouldn't be where we are now, would we. You're right, Stu... Steve.... the case would be OVER by now and Kobe would be focusing on the season instead of this s***! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted October 17, 2003 Share Posted October 17, 2003 That don't explain anything. So ya just basically take the guys right to the priliminary hearings? What if the case doesn't go to trial? The case doesn't have to go to trial. I have no questions, as of now, that he did not rape her. Atleast I admit my bias. Coordially, 'Kiddo' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted October 17, 2003 Share Posted October 17, 2003 That don't explain anything. So ya just basically take the guys right to the priliminary hearings? What if the case doesn't go to trial? The case doesn't have to go to trial. I have no questions, as of now, that he did not rape her. Atleast I admit my bias. Coordially, 'Kiddo' If ya read the first three posts... you'd see that we were addressing all the rumors. My comment was that let's just get this show on the road and be done with it. Point is... I NEVER said he was guilty, and even said a few times that I thought she was full of s***. Which makes you full of s***. Don't tell me I said s*** I didn't say. I have no bias in this case. The outcome doesn't effect me or my life in any way whatsoever. Maybe you should address that bias because, as some here say, if you allow something that doesn't effect you to effect you.. you might have some issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted October 17, 2003 Share Posted October 17, 2003 So ya just basically take the guys right to the priliminary hearings? Ummm.. isn't that what happened..? I just wanted it faster so Kobe could get his life back on track if her story was full of s***. :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted October 17, 2003 Share Posted October 17, 2003 That don't explain anything. So ya just basically take the guys right to the priliminary hearings? What if the case doesn't go to trial? The case doesn't have to go to trial. I have no questions, as of now, that he did not rape her. Atleast I admit my bias. Coordially, 'Kiddo' If ya read the first three posts... you'd see that we were addressing all the rumors. My comment was that let's just get this show on the road and be done with it. Point is... I NEVER said he was guilty, and even said a few times that I thought she was full of s***. Which makes you full of s***. Don't tell me I said s*** I didn't say. I have no bias in this case. The outcome doesn't effect me or my life in any way whatsoever. Maybe you should address that bias because, as some here say, if you allow something that doesn't effect you to effect you.. you might have some issues. Haha, imagine that, I never said you said he was guilty. I said you were bias. And you are. Otherwise you would not go to the lengths you are going to, to show that ya never said he was guilty. And, ya seem to be talking about it at home quite a bit. Being bias doesn't mean that I care what happens. It just says that I think one thing will happen, no matter what. Now you are just throwing hogwash and trying ta pin me with bulls***. Ya say I am full of s***, atleast I am consistent. We know you are not. And I am waiting for the reply that goes like this: "You are full of s***. I never picked a side. Blah, Blah, Blah. Learn to read. More blah. I think you're crazy. Even more blah." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted October 17, 2003 Share Posted October 17, 2003 They already have evidence that it wasn't Bryant. A.) Pubic Hair B.) Yellow Panties C.) She did not say no to him when Winters asked D.) She did not go after 24 hours... Kobe Bryant: Innocent of Charges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted October 17, 2003 Share Posted October 17, 2003 They already have evidence that it wasn't Bryant. A.) Pubic Hair B.) Yellow Panties C.) She did not say no to him when Winters asked D.) She did not go after 24 hours... Kobe Bryant: Innocent of Charges We know, that's not what she is b****ing about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted October 17, 2003 Share Posted October 17, 2003 Haha, imagine that, I never said you said he was guilty. I said you were bias. And you are. Otherwise you would not go to the lengths you are going to, to show that ya never said he was guilty. And, ya seem to be talking about it at home quite a bit. Being bias doesn't mean that I care what happens. It just says that I think one thing will happen, no matter what. Now you are just throwing hogwash and trying ta pin me with bulls***. Ya say I am full of s***, atleast I am consistent. We know you are not. And I am waiting for the reply that goes like this: "You are full of s***. I never picked a side. Blah, Blah, Blah. Learn to read. More blah. I think you're crazy. Even more blah." Nope. I'm just going to call you a liar. Page 3 of this very thread... "I apreciate you making me feel good about reading. You feel his guilty, I feel he is innocent. " I go to lengths to defend myself against people who TELL LIES! No need to tell you that you're full of s***.. you did a good job of proving that all on your own. Bla, bla, bla, YOU'RE A LIAR, bla, bla, bla.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted October 17, 2003 Share Posted October 17, 2003 Haha, imagine that, I never said you said he was guilty. I said you were bias. And you are. Otherwise you would not go to the lengths you are going to, to show that ya never said he was guilty. And, ya seem to be talking about it at home quite a bit. Being bias doesn't mean that I care what happens. It just says that I think one thing will happen, no matter what. Now you are just throwing hogwash and trying ta pin me with bulls***. Ya say I am full of s***, atleast I am consistent. We know you are not. And I am waiting for the reply that goes like this: "You are full of s***. I never picked a side. Blah, Blah, Blah. Learn to read. More blah. I think you're crazy. Even more blah." Nope. I'm just going to call you a liar. Page 3 of this very thread... "I apreciate you making me feel good about reading. You feel his guilty, I feel he is innocent. " I go to lengths to defend myself against people who TELL LIES! No need to tell you that you're full of s***.. you did a good job of proving that all on your own. Bla, bla, bla, YOU'RE A LIAR, bla, bla, bla.... I am a liar, cheat, asshole, prick, and deutsch bag, I knew that already. Duh. But, feeling like he is guilty does not mean it is written in stone. That means you are leaning towards that way, ie bias. All I have learned tonight is you are not a big enough person to admit that you were against the guy. I am looking for a word, oh what is it, starts with a bi, um bi..bi..b****. Oh, well there I am. You are a b****. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted October 17, 2003 Share Posted October 17, 2003 I am a liar, cheat, asshole, prick, and deutsch bag, I knew that already. Duh. But, feeling like he is guilty does not mean it is written in stone. That means you are leaning towards that way, ie bias. All I have learned tonight is you are not a big enough person to admit that you were against the guy. I am looking for a word, oh what is it, starts with a bi, um bi..bi..b****. Oh, well there I am. You are a b****. Poor Stupid Steve... will you ever get it..? I never said I "thought" he was guilty. Not once. Not ever. I leaned towards nothing until last week.. when ironically.. I leaned towards NOT guilty. I won't admit to being against him.. cause I wasn't :dips*** I'm sorry I busted you.. didn't want to do it. But like Kobe's accuser.. don't lie and you won't get caught LOL.. I'm a b****... well duh!! Tell me something I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted October 17, 2003 Share Posted October 17, 2003 I am a liar, cheat, asshole, prick, and deutsch bag, I knew that already. Duh. But, feeling like he is guilty does not mean it is written in stone. That means you are leaning towards that way, ie bias. All I have learned tonight is you are not a big enough person to admit that you were against the guy. I am looking for a word, oh what is it, starts with a bi, um bi..bi..b****. Oh, well there I am. You are a b****. Poor Stupid Steve... will you ever get it..? I never said I "thought" he was guilty. Not once. Not ever. I leaned towards nothing until last week.. when ironically.. I leaned towards NOT guilty. I won't admit to being against him.. cause I wasn't :dips*** I'm sorry I busted you.. didn't want to do it. But like Kobe's accuser.. don't lie and you won't get caught LOL.. I'm a b****... well duh!! Tell me something I don't know. Thats it, I think we have to take this to Peoples Court or in this Case Soxtalk's Court where the honorable judge Jason precides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted October 17, 2003 Share Posted October 17, 2003 I am a liar, cheat, asshole, prick, and deutsch bag, I knew that already. Duh. But, feeling like he is guilty does not mean it is written in stone. That means you are leaning towards that way, ie bias. All I have learned tonight is you are not a big enough person to admit that you were against the guy. I am looking for a word, oh what is it, starts with a bi, um bi..bi..b****. Oh, well there I am. You are a b****. Poor Stupid Steve... will you ever get it..? I never said I "thought" he was guilty. Not once. Not ever. I leaned towards nothing until last week.. when ironically.. I leaned towards NOT guilty. I won't admit to being against him.. cause I wasn't :dips*** I'm sorry I busted you.. didn't want to do it. But like Kobe's accuser.. don't lie and you won't get caught LOL.. I'm a b****... well duh!! Tell me something I don't know. Thats it, I think we have to take this to Peoples Court or in this Case Soxtalk's Court where the honorable judge Jason precides Sorry Jas.. the case is open and shut. The evidence is overwhelming. Steve guilty, the b**** innocent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted October 17, 2003 Share Posted October 17, 2003 I ain't arguing anything I said. Who gives a damn what I said. You're like the fan who picks a team after it wins. I never came into this to say you thought he was certainly guilty or so on. Ya say she is not a whore, which c'mon that is pretty easy to establish. I did not want to have to actually do anything, but here we go with some of my own evidence: "Doesn't matter now. Jury is tainted. I think he did force her. But I think he'll walk." - October 10th, 10:30 am. "Oh.. it'll be binded over for trial. Their only hope is that they trash her enough to get them to doubt her story. A shame." - October 10th, 10:45 am. Off of Bmr's quote of: "Nah, I say he doesnt walk. This isnt being prosecuted in LA..........if they present the evidence, the jury will convict him. IF I was on the jury, I would choose the physical evidence(assuming they have it), over her sexual history. Whores get raped too." You said: "I hope you're right." - October 10th, 12:48 pm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted October 17, 2003 Share Posted October 17, 2003 I ain't arguing anything I said. Who gives a damn what I said. You're like the fan who picks a team after it wins. I never came into this to say you thought he was certainly guilty or so on. Ya say she is not a whore, which c'mon that is pretty easy to establish. I did not want to have to actually do anything, but here we go with some of my own evidence: "Doesn't matter now. Jury is tainted. I think he did force her. But I think he'll walk." - October 10th, 10:30 am. "Oh.. it'll be binded over for trial. Their only hope is that they trash her enough to get them to doubt her story. A shame." - October 10th, 10:45 am. Off of Bmr's quote of: "Nah, I say he doesnt walk. This isnt being prosecuted in LA..........if they present the evidence, the jury will convict him. IF I was on the jury, I would choose the physical evidence(assuming they have it), over her sexual history. Whores get raped too." You said: "I hope you're right." - October 10th, 12:48 pm. Yeah.. ummm.. those are in THIS thread, Stupid Steve. And already addressed with Clujer.. I know it's hard.. but please do try to keep up! Here's a few more of your gems though... From page 3: **Another lie of yours "No question about it. You have it set in your mind that she already got raped." ***And interestingly enough... you DON'T think he's guilty..? "I haven't heard anything to make me think he is guilty." So.. you lied about you thinking he is guilty, too. Sheesh. You're compulsive, too?You might want to get some help with that. Oh.. umm.. where did I say she wasn't a whore AFTER the evidence became public. Not nice to lie.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted October 17, 2003 Share Posted October 17, 2003 One more outburst and I'll hold you both in contempt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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