WBWSF Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Alonso looks like another Hahn bust. The White Sox would have been better off keeping Avi Garcia and not signing Alonso. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 18 minutes ago, WBWSF said: Alonso looks like another Hahn bust. The White Sox would have been better off keeping Avi Garcia and not signing Alonso. He'll probably hit better than this...but that doesn't matter. He was a bust the day it turned out he wasn't going to talk his in-law into taking a $50 million discount. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Balta1701 said: He'll probably hit better than this...but that doesn't matter. He was a bust the day it turned out he wasn't going to talk his in-law into taking a $50 million discount. Nailed it. Hahn couldn’t spend the extra $50 million guaranteed to sign his number one free agent target but he wasted 26 percent of that total ($13 million) on two bad players in a failed recruiting effort, and one of those two bad players hasn’t even seen the field. Edited April 22, 2019 by Harper2Sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneDog847 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Balta1701 said: He'll probably hit better than this...but that doesn't matter. He was a bust the day it turned out he wasn't going to talk his in-law into taking a $50 million discount. I still can't wrap my head around the Alonso and Jay acquisitions. Did the Sox FO really think that Machado would take a huge discount just so he could play with his buddy and brother in law for a year? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, OneDog847 said: I still can't wrap my head around the Alonso and Jay acquisitions. Did the Sox FO really think that Machado would take a huge discount just so he could play with his buddy and brother in law for a year? They spent $13 million in an effort to save $50 million 9 or 10 years from now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneDog847 Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 31 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: They spent $13 million in an effort to save $50 million 9 or 10 years from now. Alonso and Jay only should have been brought on board once Machado had signed on the dotted line. Acquiring those two beforehand just reeked of desperation by the Sox. Hopefully Alonso can be be moved over the Summer for a couple of deep dish pizzas. This guy has no place on the 2020 roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Friday Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 38 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: They spent $13 million in an effort to save $50 million 9 or 10 years from now. It’s ridiculous how accurate this is. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Blackout Friday said: It’s ridiculous how accurate this is. It’s amazing how afraid the Sox are to spend larger chunks of change but continually waste millions here and there as if it doesn’t all add up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Harper2Sox said: It’s amazing how afraid the Sox are to spend larger chunks of change but continually waste millions here and there as if it doesn’t all add up. Same thing on the west side with the Bulls. How much are they paying Thibs and Hoiberg right now (luckily for JR Hoiberg got that NU job)? How much did they waste on Jabari? Penny smart and pound foolish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Blackout Friday said: It’s ridiculous how accurate this is. it's actually only to save $37 million Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted April 22, 2019 Author Share Posted April 22, 2019 I think Hahn thought he getting the players these guys always have been. Their relationship with Machado was just a plus. Both players have either under performed or not performed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Alonso on pace for 660 plate appearances, well in excess of the 526 required to meet the $8M vesting option. At this point, is seems like the Sox would prefer to have him next season for $9M as opposed to paying him his $1M buyout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Alonso on pace for 660 plate appearances, well in excess of the 526 required to meet the $8M vesting option. At this point, is seems like the Sox would prefer to have him next season for $9M as opposed to paying him his $1M buyout. I also wouldn't be surprised if he's elsewhere by August. Opens up some 1B/DH at-bats for Collins and Zavala. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Just now, Jose Abreu said: I also wouldn't be surprised if he's elsewhere by August. Opens up some 1B/DH at-bats for Collins and Zavala. If he's at 400 Plate appearances by the trade deadline, that might be nice for a team because they know he's healthy, but any team acquiring him will know that the option is certain to vest, and that might not be appealing to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Jose Abreu said: I also wouldn't be surprised if he's elsewhere by August. Opens up some 1B/DH at-bats for Collins and Zavala. Yah, but that could be a determining factor in another team acquiring him or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: If he's at 400 Plate appearances by the trade deadline, that might be nice for a team because they know he's healthy, but any team acquiring him will know that the option is certain to vest, and that might not be appealing to them. 2 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Yah, but that could be a determining factor in another team acquiring him or not. I guess we'd have to include cash, but if the money will be spent... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneDog847 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 47 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said: I also wouldn't be surprised if he's elsewhere by August. Opens up some 1B/DH at-bats for Collins and Zavala. The Sox will probably just DFA him once they deem Collins and Zavala ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, OneDog847 said: The Sox will probably just DFA him once they deem Collins and Zavala ready. I would imagine they have to DFA Castillo/McCann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 On 4/22/2019 at 10:08 AM, Dick Allen said: They spent $13 million in an effort to save $50 million 9 or 10 years from now. Reminds me of something my old boss said to me years ago. I had a one on one meeting scheduled with him, and he was running late from an offsite appointment. He came in rushed and looking distraught. I asked him if everything was okay. He says: ”Yeah it’s fine it’s just... I just got a parking ticket and it was really dumb. I’m kicking myself because I considered putting an extra quarter in the meter, and sure enough, the appointment took longer than I expected and now I have a $50 parking ticket.” I tried to console him. “Oh. Well, hey, that’s gonna happen from time to time in Chicago. Cost of doing business. At least the meeting went well, right? Besides, your our CEO, I mean what’s fifty bucks here and there on a productive appointment?” And what he said then has always stuck with me: ”No, it’s not that. I just gambled fifty dollars to save twenty-five cents. It was a stupid decision from the start.” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 23 hours ago, poppysox said: I think Hahn thought he getting the players these guys always have been. What they had been (recently) was not very good; both were sorely overpaid for their performance. If their recent performance is what Hahn wanted then it's no wonder... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, GreenSox said: What they had been (recently) was not very good; both were sorely overpaid for their performance. If their recent performance is what Hahn wanted then it's no wonder... Exactly. Where did this idea come from that Alonso is a good hitter? He plays 1B where the expectations are high for one's bat and he has never matched up in that area. He's a 32 year old with a .743 career OPS. Edited April 24, 2019 by Harper2Sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 16 hours ago, Eminor3rd said: Reminds me of something my old boss said to me years ago. I had a one on one meeting scheduled with him, and he was running late from an offsite appointment. He came in rushed and looking distraught. I asked him if everything was okay. He says: ”Yeah it’s fine it’s just... I just got a parking ticket and it was really dumb. I’m kicking myself because I considered putting an extra quarter in the meter, and sure enough, the appointment took longer than I expected and now I have a $50 parking ticket.” I tried to console him. “Oh. Well, hey, that’s gonna happen from time to time in Chicago. Cost of doing business. At least the meeting went well, right? Besides, your our CEO, I mean what’s fifty bucks here and there on a productive appointment?” And what he said then has always stuck with me: ”No, it’s not that. I just gambled fifty dollars to save twenty-five cents. It was a stupid decision from the start.” Holy fuck this happened to me 2-3 weeks ago. I drove in on the first of the month (in accounting, these are long days for me so I didn't want to deal with the longer Metra trains at night). I found a lot where I paid I think $22 to park for 12 hours. To park for over 12 hours, it was like $2 extra. I ended up being at the office for 15 hours and walked out to a $50 parking ticket. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 33 minutes ago, soxfan2014 said: Holy fuck this happened to me 2-3 weeks ago. I drove in on the first of the month (in accounting, these are long days for me so I didn't want to deal with the longer Metra trains at night). I found a lot where I paid I think $22 to park for 12 hours. To park for over 12 hours, it was like $2 extra. I ended up being at the office for 15 hours and walked out to a $50 parking ticket. Makes you think about that stuff differently. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 On 4/24/2019 at 9:36 AM, Eminor3rd said: Makes you think about that stuff differently. I was so pissed lol not making that mistake next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted April 26, 2019 Author Share Posted April 26, 2019 On 4/23/2019 at 10:53 PM, Harper2Sox said: Exactly. Where did this idea come from that Alonso is a good hitter? He plays 1B where the expectations are high for one's bat and he has never matched up in that area. He's a 32 year old with a .743 career OPS. I would have understood the Alonso pickup if we didn't already have Palka. There is a premium on lefty power but we didn't need it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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