southsider2k5 Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 This statement costs the White Sox ~ $4 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 Hopefully his velocity is better than it was in Spring Training at 90-92 mph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 4 hours ago, Harper2Sox said: Hopefully his velocity is better than it was in Spring Training at 90-92 mph. Everyone is always so concerned about velocity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cashman Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 11 hours ago, Balta1701 said: This statement costs the White Sox ~ $4 million. $4M for a low level prospect IF they are able to trade him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jack Parkman Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 11 hours ago, BigHurt3515 said: Everyone is always so concerned about velocity. Because in this day and age it is a determining factor in a pitcher's performance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 26 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: Because in this day and age it is a determining factor in a pitcher's performance. No it is not. Plenty of pitchers who don't throw 94+ that are good pitchers. If you have enough control, movement, and different set of pitches you can do just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 10 minutes ago, BigHurt3515 said: No it is not. Plenty of pitchers who don't throw 94+ that are good pitchers. If you have enough control, movement, and different set of pitches you can do just fine. There are certain pitchers who can pitch with lower velocities and those who can't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Jack Parkman said: There are certain pitchers who can pitch with lower velocities and those who can't True. But if a pitcher throws in the mid-90s but straight as an arrow, they'll get pounded. A mix of speed, good off-speed, and movement is needed. However, if a pitcher lacks speed but has good movement and location, they can be successful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 20 hours ago, BigHurt3515 said: Everyone is always so concerned about velocity. This comment aged about as well as Santana and his velocity. He was at 90-91 today but I’m sure it didn’t factor in. ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, Harper2Sox said: This comment aged about as well as Santana and his velocity. He was at 90-91 today but I’m sure it didn’t factor in. ? I didn't say anywhere that Santana was going to be good but you don't need to throw 95 to be good. Joey Lucchesi throws 91-92 and hasn't let up a run in 10+ innings this year. But I guess you can't be successful if you don't throw hard enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, BigHurt3515 said: I didn't say anywhere that Santana was going to be good but you don't need to throw 95 to be good. Joey Lucchesi throws 91-92 and hasn't let up a run in 10+ innings this year. But I guess you can't be successful if you don't throw hard enough. Do you remember what type of pitcher Santana was and what his velocity was at when he was pitching well in prior years? The guy isn’t Greg Maddux. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 (edited) I am not talking about Santana specifically, I am talking about pitchers in general. I don't give a shit about Santana, I am just tired of people complaining about velocity all the time Edited April 10, 2019 by BigHurt3515 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, BigHurt3515 said: I am not talking about Santana specifically, I am talking about pitchers in general. I don't give a shit about Santana, I am just tired of people complaining about velocity all the time I agree with your premise. Guys can be successful with a 90-91 mph fastball, a variety of pitches, and really good control. However, you posted your complaint in a thread about Santana the same day gets shelled throwing 90-91 mph after not showing his usual velocity in Spring Training. In this situation, the velocity concerns were warranted and are likely part of the reason he was terrible today. Edited April 10, 2019 by Harper2Sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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