DirtySox Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 (edited) College: Quote 1.) Spencer Torkelson - Arizona State 1B/OF 2.) Emerson Hancock - Georgia RHP 3.) Austin Martin - Vanderbilt SS 4.) Asa Lacy - Texas A&M LHP 5.) Nick Gonzales - New Mexico State 2B 6.) Garrett Mitchell - UCLA OF 7.) Casey Martin - Arkansas SS 8.) Reid Detmers - Louisville LHP 9.) Carmen Mlodzinski- South Carolina RHP 10.) JT Ginn - Mississippi State RHP 11.) Garrett Crochet - Tennessee LHP 12.) Patrick Bailey - North Carolina State C 13.) Austin Wells - Arizona C/1B 14.) Tanner Burns - Auburn RHP 15.) Cole Wilcox - Georgia RHP Quote Eight pitchers make up the top 15 players in the country at this point, with the group led by No. 2 ranked righthander Emerson Hancock (Georgia). No. 4 ranked lefthander Asa Lacy (Texas A&M) is right on his heels and has dominated in front of scouts this fall, with some saying he’s a lock to go in the top 10 thanks to his handedness, stuff and poise on the mound. The 2020 class offers the sort of impact pitching prospects that the 2019 class simply didn’t have. Hancock and Lacy are both top-of-the-rotation types, and they are followed by more pitchers who have that sort of potential, including lefthander Reid Detmers (Louisville) and righthanders Carmen Mlodzinski (South Carolina), JT Ginn (Mississippi State), Tanner Burns (Auburn) and Cole Wilcox (Georgia). One player who has gotten additional helium for his exploits this fall is lefthander Garrett Crochet (Tennessee), who jumps 11 spots from his previous ranking to get to No. 11 in our current update. Crochet has pitched off of an explosive fastball that’s sat in the mid-90s with impressive life and is thrown from a tough angle out of a 6-foot-5 lefthanded frame. With increased consistency of his secondaries, he could jump further in the rankings next spring. Three hitters are included among the top five prospects, including the top player in the class, first baseman Spencer Torkelson (Arizona State) and No. 3 Austin Martin (Vanderbilt), who has a case for the first overall pick in the draft if he shows he can handle shortstop next spring. At No. 5 is New Mexico State second baseman Nick Gonzales, who is among the best pure hitters in the class. Also rising in this edition of the college list is outfielder Garrett Mitchell (UCLA), who checks in at No. 6 thanks to positive reviews from scouts during his fall season, Mitchell was highly touted as a high school player out of Orange (Calif.) Lutheran High and is likely has the loudest package of tools in the college class. He has 70-grade running ability, raw power that will earn 70-grades, plus arm strength and plus defensive ability in center field as well. Edited November 11, 2019 by DirtySox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 (edited) Quote High School: 1.) Jared Kelley - Refugio (Texas) HS RHP 2.) Austin Hendrick - West Allegheny HS, Imperial, Pa. OF 3.) Mick Abel - Jesuit HS, Portland, Ore. RHP 4.) Nate Savino - Potomac Falls HS, Sterling, Va. LHP 5.) Robert Hassell - Independence HS, Thompson's Station, Tenn. OF 6.) Ed Howard - Mount Carmel (Ill.) HS SS 7.) Tyler Soderstrom - Turlock (Calif.) HS C 8.) Dax Fulton - Mustang (Okla.) HS LHP 9.) Drew Romo - The Woodlands (Texas) HS C 10.) Blaze Jordan - DeSoto Central HS, Southaven, Miss. 1B 11.) Pete Crow-Armstrong - Harvard-Westlake HS, Studio City, Calif. OF 12.) Zac Veen - Spruce Creek HS, Port Orange, Fla. OF 13.) Carson Montgomery - Windermere (Fla.) HS RHP 14.) Victor Mederos - Monsignor Pace HS, Miami RHP 15.) Alex Santos - Mount St. Michael Academy, Bronx, N.Y. RHP Quote The class is still led by Refugio (Texas) High righthander Jared Kelley, who has a terrific combination of size, present stuff and the ability to spot his pitches, though there are scouts who will argue for the hitting ability and massive raw power that West Allegheny High (Imperial, Pa.) outfielder Austin Hendrick offers from the left side or the projection and feel for spin that Jesuit High (Portland) righthander Mick Abel brings to the table. Not much has changed at the top of the high school class, as many of the best players in the group didn’t attend Perfect Game’s World Wood Bat Association World Championship in Jupiter, Fla., but Independence High (Thompson’s Station, Tenn.) outfielder Robert Hassell does move to No. 5 overall and is now the second-highest rated hitter in the class thanks to a strong summer and showing with USA Baseball’s 18U National Team. He has a solid argument as the best pure hitter in the prep class. One of the biggest risers is Kingwood (Texas) High righthander and shortstop Masyn Winn, who just missed being ranked on our previous top 50, but showed electric ability on the mound and as a hitter in Jupiter—shooting all the way up to No. 18 in the class. Pound-for-pound, Winn could be the most naturally gifted player in the 2019 class, as the 5-foot-11, 180-pound Arkansas commit can run his fastball up to 98 mph, has two potentially plus secondaries, generates impressive bat speed and can capably handle shortstop. He plays the game at a different speed than most high schoolers, and with continued consistency on and off the field next spring could find himself in the first round. Righthander Nate Wohlgemuth is another Jupiter riser, who moved into the top 50 thanks to his electric pure stuff, but will face profile questions due to his size and the lack of a consistent third pitch. Still, his pure fastball velocity is among the best in the 2020 class. Edited November 11, 2019 by DirtySox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Didn't Savino enroll early or something? Not sure why he's still on the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Interesting list. Thank you for posting. Savino said he's going to early enroll at Virginia for the spring semester. They're probably waiting until it's official. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 (edited) I'm pretty stoked about the college pitching crop after reading the list's preamble. Going to check out Crochet when I get a chance. Edited November 11, 2019 by DirtySox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 He's been throwing it good this fall. It will be huge if he can get his name in the mix for 1-11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominikk85 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 (edited) On 11/9/2019 at 12:57 AM, Harold's Leg Lift said: They should give up the 2nd round pick for a difference maker. Cole, Strasburg, Rendon, Bumgarner, Donaldson and Wheeler are all no brainers. Ozuna is a tough call. He's not really a difference maker but the OF market is so bad he's one of the better options. I don't think they should give up the pick (and pool money) for Smith or Odorizzi. Those guys are more pieces to the puzzle guys than difference makers and I don't think the Sox are at that point yet. They can add players like that next off season. This. A Comp pick is very valuable but it "only" gets you a 45 fv prospect which is projected to like 1.5 war per year. This is very valuable and gives you a larger pool too but it is not a huge difference maker. Not worth to give that up for a mediocre player but for a star it is easily, the window is starting to run with eloy, moncada, giolito all started their clock and not worth waiting to pile up more marginal prospects, the core is there, now it is about depth. Imo the best would be to get a star and 2 more QO guys. Yeah it wouldn't be great to not have a 2nd to 4th round pick and the corresponding smaller pool, but better to give up a 2nd, 3rd and 4th than 3 2nd rounders in years even if that makes one draft look meh. So if you give up a comp pick, give up more than 1 since the later comp picks come at a discount. The math is pretty simple. With 3 separate comp picks you lose 3 second rounders. This is 3 45s and about a total of 5.5 mil or so of pool money. Tank 3 picks in 1 year and you lose a 45, a 40 and a 35 prospect and about a combined 3.5 mil of slot money. So while it looks bad to totally destroy a draft there is a big incentive to sign either no comp pick guys or more than one at once. Edited November 13, 2019 by Dominikk85 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 I like this part of the draft lead up where I want every player and dislike the month prior where every player is flawed and terrible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 MLB Pipeline's Top 100 Draft prospects for the 2020 draft is up. Will dig in later. http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2020?list=draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 It's totally going to be a quick moving college arm this year though. Good class for it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 8 minutes ago, DirtySox said: It's totally going to be a quick moving college arm this year though. Good class for it too. Do we lose a pick for Grandal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, ChiSoxJon said: Do we lose a pick for Grandal? Nope, he had a QO when Milwaukee signed him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, bmags said: Nope, he had a QO when Milwaukee signed him So that prevents all future QOs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 1 minute ago, ChiSoxJon said: So that prevents all future QOs? Yeah I think the latest CBA said you could only have a QO used on a player once. Weirdly Hamels can be tagged with a QO for the braves next year since he never had one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, bmags said: Yeah I think the latest CBA said you could only have a QO used on a player once. Weirdly Hamels can be tagged with a QO for the braves next year since he never had one. Can't keep up with the rules, but good to know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Meaningless Mock: 11: Heston Kjerstad, OF, Arkansas 49: Blaze Jordan, 1B, MS-HS 79: Kevin Abel, RHP, Oregon State Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 3 hours ago, DirtySox said: MLB Pipeline's Top 100 Draft prospects for the 2020 draft is up. Will dig in later. http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2020?list=draft Crochet at #9 for MLB after being the #11 college prospect for BA. Looks like he'll be the SoxTalk guy to follow this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 I'm really intrigued by Crochet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 5 hours ago, Quin said: Crochet at #9 for MLB after being the #11 college prospect for BA. Looks like he'll be the SoxTalk guy to follow this year. Not even joking that much but ... sox should hire Giolitos pitching coach if they get him for his help in reigning in a 6'6 pitcher. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DirtySox Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 (edited) If you needed evidence on the strength of the college pitching crop. Edited December 5, 2019 by DirtySox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 12 minutes ago, DirtySox said: If you needed evidence on the strength of the college pitching crop. Yeah that's pretty good. I am really excited for Ginn this year as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Hmm. Are they finally going to resolve the playing games while 1st round picks are being made conflict? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, DirtySox said: Hmm. Are they finally going to resolve the playing games while 1st round picks are being made conflict? The answer is yes. Well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 (edited) The Sox really need to string some good drafts together. The 2015, 2016 and 2017 drafts haven’t yielded much fruit for the Sox and it’s big reason why they still don’t have much depth, valuable assets they’re willing to part with or assets that other teams find interesting Edited December 16, 2019 by Joshua Strong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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