SoxBlanco Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 10 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: Because they didn't draft him. So teams are only interested in the guy they draft? Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 5 hours ago, Harry Chappas said: or Alec Thomas The only prominent “local guy” we heard some smoke around recently was Schnell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, SoxBlanco said: So teams are only interested in the guy they draft? Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds? Oh boy a semantics argument!!! Fun for everyone!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 On 10/17/2019 at 2:10 PM, Harry Chappas said: or Alec Thomas They didn't take Alek Thomas because Allen Thomas didn't want them to. The family had a deal worked out with Arizona. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 The way too early top 11 mock draft: 1. Detroit Austin Martin SS Vandy 2. Baltimore Emerson Hancock RHP Georgia 3. Miami Cole Wilcox RHP Georgia 4. Kansas City Spencer Torkelson 1B Arizona St 5. Toronto Garrett Mitchell OF UCLA 6. Seattle Jared Kelly RHP Refugio HS 7. Pittsburgh JT Ginn RHP Mississippi St 8. San Diego Pete Crow Armstrong OF Harvard Westlake HS 9. Colorado Ed Howard SS Mt Carmel HS 10. LA Angels Cade Cavalli RHP Oklahoma 11. Chicago WS Tommy Mace RHP Florida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 On 10/21/2019 at 2:04 PM, Y2Jimmy0 said: They didn't take Alek Thomas because Allen Thomas didn't want them to. The family had a deal worked out with Arizona. And possibly because of the rumor that they thought due to Alek's dad being Allen, he was likely far more physically mature than his counterparts and may have maxed out his strength and frame earlier than those others that had much more projection in their frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 16 hours ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: The way too early top 11 mock draft: 1. Detroit Austin Martin SS Vandy 2. Baltimore Emerson Hancock RHP Georgia 3. Miami Cole Wilcox RHP Georgia 4. Kansas City Spencer Torkelson 1B Arizona St 5. Toronto Garrett Mitchell OF UCLA 6. Seattle Jared Kelly RHP Refugio HS 7. Pittsburgh JT Ginn RHP Mississippi St 8. San Diego Pete Crow Armstrong OF Harvard Westlake HS 9. Colorado Ed Howard SS Mt Carmel HS 10. LA Angels Cade Cavalli RHP Oklahoma 11. Chicago WS Tommy Mace RHP Florida oof. Austin Martin just sounds like a name that will terrorize sox for years. Not a lot of lhp at the top I see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 18 hours ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: The way too early top 11 mock draft: 1. Detroit Austin Martin SS Vandy 2. Baltimore Emerson Hancock RHP Georgia 3. Miami Cole Wilcox RHP Georgia 4. Kansas City Spencer Torkelson 1B Arizona St 5. Toronto Garrett Mitchell OF UCLA 6. Seattle Jared Kelly RHP Refugio HS 7. Pittsburgh JT Ginn RHP Mississippi St 8. San Diego Pete Crow Armstrong OF Harvard Westlake HS 9. Colorado Ed Howard SS Mt Carmel HS 10. LA Angels Cade Cavalli RHP Oklahoma 11. Chicago WS Tommy Mace RHP Florida Means nothing, but is there a deeper mock or is this it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 1 hour ago, bmags said: oof. Austin Martin just sounds like a name that will terrorize sox for years. Not a lot of lhp at the top I see. There are a few college LHP who could be in the mix. Garrett Crochet (Tennessee) has been up to 97 this fall with a plus breaking ball. Consistent strikes have been an issue. Asa Lacy (Texas A&M) and Reid Detmers (Louisville) are pitchability guys who have seen a bump in velo this fall. Jake Eder and Hugh Fisher (both Vandy) are also guys who could make a jump in the spring. It's a very deep college pitching class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 15 minutes ago, ChiSoxJon said: Means nothing, but is there a deeper mock or is this it? Ha. I'm still working on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominikk85 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 What strategy would you prefer at 11: Getting a polished and skilled guy with limited upside but a solid chance to become a bottom of the line-up bat or back of the rotation starter (with the floor of being a decent bench bat or pen arm) or a high upside guy with a serious flaw and bust potential who could be a plus player or bust in the minors? At 11 you probably can't have ceiling and floor (those guys are gone top5) so you have to decide. Is the core good enough to start supplementing with good depth or do they need to try to find one more star even if it means risking a bust? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 A team should never draft for need but it's nice when a draft is deep in a need like this one is with college pitching. RHP Tommy Mace was 91-94 with a plus breaking ball last night. LHP Asa Lacy was also up to 94 last night. Garrett Crotchet has been up to 97 this fall and Cade Cavalli up to 98 with a power BB and that's not even mentioning the three top guys in RHP Emerson Hancock, RHP Cole Wilcox and RHP JT Ginn. I think they will have their choice of a few floor/ceiling college pitchers at 11 as all these guys have a chance to develop into a top of the rotation guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: A team should never draft for need but it's nice when a draft is deep in a need like this one is with college pitching. RHP Tommy Mace was 91-94 with a plus breaking ball last night. LHP Asa Lacy was also up to 94 last night. Garrett Crotchet has been up to 97 this fall and Cade Cavalli up to 98 with a power BB and that's not even mentioning the three top guys in RHP Emerson Hancock, RHP Cole Wilcox and RHP JT Ginn. I think they will have their choice of a few floor/ceiling college pitchers at 11 as all these guys have a chance to develop into a top of the rotation guy. Yes, this is actually the perfect time for this type of draft for the sox, though recently it has felt like if a draft is deep at a position they swerve the other way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 Health is always the concern with pitchers. If all these guys stay healthy it's going to be one hell of a spring. Dudes everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Without further ado.... 1. Detroit Austin Martin SS Vandy 2. Baltimore Emerson Hancock RHP Georgia 3. Miami Cole Wilcox RHP Georgia 4. Kansas City Spencer Torkelson 1B Arizona St 5. Toronto Garrett Mitchell OF UCLA 6. Seattle Jared Kelly RHP Refugio HS 7. Pittsburgh JT Ginn RHP Mississippi St 8. San Diego Pete Crow Armstrong OF Harvard Westlake HS 9. Colorado Ed Howard SS Mt Carmel HS 10. LA Angels Asa Lacy LHP Texas A&M 11. Chicago WS Tommy Mace RHP Florida 12. Cincinnati Casey Martin SS Arkansas 13. San Francisco Mick Abel RHP Jesuit HS 14. Texas Cade Cavalli RHP Oklahoma 15. Philadelphia Dylan Crews OF Lake St Mary's HS 16. Chicago Cubs Garrett Crochet LHP Tennessee 17. Boston Zac Veen OF Spruce Creek HS 18. Arizona Nick Gonzales 2B New Mexico St 19. NY Mets Nate Savino LHP Potomac Falls HS 20. Milwaukee Robert Hassell OF Independance HS 21. St Louis Reid Detmers LHP Louisville 22. Washington Patrick Bailey C NC State 23. Cleveland Blaze Jordan 1B DeSoto Central HS 24. Tampa Bay Heston Kjerstad OF Arkansas 25. Atlanta Hugh Fisher LHP Vandy 26. Oakland Tanner Burns RHP Auburn 27. Minnesota Carmen Mlodzinski RHP South Carolina 28. NY Yankees Austin Hendrick OF West Allegheny HS 29. LA Dodgers Jake Eder LHP Vandy 30. Houston Jordan Walker 3B Decatur HS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 5 hours ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: Without further ado.... 1. Detroit Austin Martin SS Vandy 2. Baltimore Emerson Hancock RHP Georgia 3. Miami Cole Wilcox RHP Georgia 4. Kansas City Spencer Torkelson 1B Arizona St 5. Toronto Garrett Mitchell OF UCLA 6. Seattle Jared Kelly RHP Refugio HS 7. Pittsburgh JT Ginn RHP Mississippi St 8. San Diego Pete Crow Armstrong OF Harvard Westlake HS 9. Colorado Ed Howard SS Mt Carmel HS 10. LA Angels Asa Lacy LHP Texas A&M 11. Chicago WS Tommy Mace RHP Florida 12. Cincinnati Casey Martin SS Arkansas 13. San Francisco Mick Abel RHP Jesuit HS 14. Texas Cade Cavalli RHP Oklahoma 15. Philadelphia Dylan Crews OF Lake St Mary's HS 16. Chicago Cubs Garrett Crochet LHP Tennessee 17. Boston Zac Veen OF Spruce Creek HS 18. Arizona Nick Gonzales 2B New Mexico St 19. NY Mets Nate Savino LHP Potomac Falls HS 20. Milwaukee Robert Hassell OF Independance HS 21. St Louis Reid Detmers LHP Louisville 22. Washington Patrick Bailey C NC State 23. Cleveland Blaze Jordan 1B DeSoto Central HS 24. Tampa Bay Heston Kjerstad OF Arkansas 25. Atlanta Hugh Fisher LHP Vandy 26. Oakland Tanner Burns RHP Auburn 27. Minnesota Carmen Mlodzinski RHP South Carolina 28. NY Yankees Austin Hendrick OF West Allegheny HS 29. LA Dodgers Jake Eder LHP Vandy 30. Houston Jordan Walker 3B Decatur HS Jordan and Kjerstad both interesting names late Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 I could be light on both. This is such a deep draft. Gonna be fun to see how it shakes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 LHP Nate Savino has early enrolled at Virginia and will not be eligible for the 2020 draft. Hopefully they won't ruin him like they've ruined every other pitcher who has ever gone to school there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 On 11/2/2019 at 6:09 AM, Dominikk85 said: What strategy would you prefer at 11: Getting a polished and skilled guy with limited upside but a solid chance to become a bottom of the line-up bat or back of the rotation starter (with the floor of being a decent bench bat or pen arm) or a high upside guy with a serious flaw and bust potential who could be a plus player or bust in the minors? At 11 you probably can't have ceiling and floor (those guys are gone top5) so you have to decide. Is the core good enough to start supplementing with good depth or do they need to try to find one more star even if it means risking a bust? I'd always take the 2nd guy. You're probably going to miss more than you hit, but the hits will be HR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 (edited) On 11/4/2019 at 8:16 AM, Harold's Leg Lift said: I could be light on both. This is such a deep draft. Gonna be fun to see how it shakes out. In your opinion...Is this a deep enough draft that the White Sox should be wary of giving up draft picks by signing someone with a QO? I ask because I really like the direction the Sox went last year drafting Thompson and Dahlquist and buying them out of their college commitments. That kind of strategy could set them up for long term success imho. Edited November 8, 2019 by wegner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 2 hours ago, wegner said: In your opinion...Is this a deep enough draft that the White Sox should be wary of giving up draft picks by signing someone with a QO? I ask because I really like the direction the Sox went last year drafting Thompson and Dahlquist and buying them out of their college commitments. That kind of strategy could set them up for long term success imho. They should give up the 2nd round pick for a difference maker. Cole, Strasburg, Rendon, Bumgarner, Donaldson and Wheeler are all no brainers. Ozuna is a tough call. He's not really a difference maker but the OF market is so bad he's one of the better options. I don't think they should give up the pick (and pool money) for Smith or Odorizzi. Those guys are more pieces to the puzzle guys than difference makers and I don't think the Sox are at that point yet. They can add players like that next off season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 25 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: They should give up the 2nd round pick for a difference maker. Cole, Strasburg, Rendon, Bumgarner, Donaldson and Wheeler are all no brainers. Ozuna is a tough call. He's not really a difference maker but the OF market is so bad he's one of the better options. I don't think they should give up the pick (and pool money) for Smith or Odorizzi. Those guys are more pieces to the puzzle guys than difference makers and I don't think the Sox are at that point yet. They can add players like that next off season. Thanks. I appreciate your opinion. If they are losing a pick, that should mean we are having an interesting off season. I thought they might have gone after Odorizzi but certainly not after the QO was attached to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Harold's Leg Lift Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 I don't have a BA account. Can you post the top 10's? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: I don't have a BA account. Can you post the top 10's? Thanks! Will do top 15 of each shortly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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