Lip Man 1 Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 Personally I'd cut both of these stiffs and admit that a very high first round pick was blown. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 16 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: I can't imagine they will 60 day IL him today, not until they're 100% certain he's headed for TJS. Maybe it's 95% at this point but they said they are waiting for the swelling to go down, if they're waiting for that then they can't 60 day him first. Saw a story yesterday where Ricky baby said he's making progress running and throwing but they still don't know for sure when he'll be ready. Another EXCELLENT signing by Rick Hahn (sarcasm implied) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 12 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Honestly I did not know that Cease was already on the 40 man. Given that, Cease should be coming up right now. There is no contractual benefit to holding him down unless you wait another 3 months. They won’t bring him up cuz they have to give advance notice ala Kopech and Moncada. They are going to want to make it a thing. I bet he will be up in about a month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 5 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said: Personally I'd cut both of these stiffs and admit that a very high first round pick was blown. Why in the world would you ever cut Ruiz when he has options remaining? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneDog847 Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 8 hours ago, SoxAce said: He's doing his best Bartolo Colon disappearing act. Last I heard Jay was in Sn Diego carrying around Machado's luggage and arranging tinder hookups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 Any other org this mess with the roster and underperformance by the pitching would have had a few people gone. Honestly coop needs to step away. Do it graciously, but it needs to be done. Honestly until the sox are owned by baseball people this will be the story. I'm sorry but this team has been ran by incompetence all these years. Kenny has to be the first incompetent. He's just clinging to 05. I bet if he's even gone from the sox he doesn't get another ML job. Enough is enough. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneDog847 Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 3 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: Why in the world would you ever cut Ruiz when he has options remaining? Let Ruiz pitch all Summer in Charlotte. Bring him up in September if he is doing well down there. Cut bait with him in the offseason if he continues to get shelled in AAA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 I'm not fond on giving up on a guy who throws 97 98 and has not been pitching for long. Check Matt Thornton... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnin' two Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 Could this just be because they need pen arms for today? Truly it isn't like there are better options in Charlotte right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 Frare and Minaya it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 9 minutes ago, fathom said: Frare and Minaya it is How did they open up a spot for Minaya? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBWSF Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 Frare and Minaya were called up. So much for Cease being called up. The White Sox will continue to go with the same starting rotation that has a ERA of 6.40 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 4 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: Why in the world would you ever cut Ruiz when he has options remaining? It's Lip. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 Ha ha. Minaya has been getting lit at Charlotte. This is just one step up from Rondon. The injuries to Hamilton and Johnson along with Burdi’s very slow TJ progress have been killers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 1 hour ago, WBWSF said: Frare and Minaya were called up. So much for Cease being called up. The White Sox will continue to go with the same starting rotation that has a ERA of 6.40 Coop will fix 'em. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 7 minutes ago, Timmy U said: Ha ha. Minaya has been getting lit at Charlotte. This is just one step up from Rondon. The injuries to Hamilton and Johnson along with Burdi’s very slow TJ progress have been killers. The White Sox continue to play the new pitching game show "Wheel of Stiffs..." Again that says a LOT about the state of pitching in the organization three years into a rebuild. Stiffs, rejects, has-been's, and guys cut from other organizations. I don't care if a guy throw 108 MPH if he's had chance after chance and can't get it done, he needs to be sent packing and give someone else a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 (edited) Fulmer is officially a complete wasted draft pick. Jay to 60 day DL what a awful signing. Edited May 5, 2019 by Soxfest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 13 hours ago, Balta1701 said: Without looking at the 10 day limit, the guys who can be called up without having to add someone to the 40 man roster are: Frare Cease Hamilton Medeiros Stephens Viera Zavala Adolfo Basabe Jay Palka What the F*** happened to John Jay anyway? How his he not on the 60 day IL? He's missed 40 days. I'm just glad he's been out of sight out of mind. Please DFA him, Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 3 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: How did they open up a spot for Minaya? Jay to the 60 day IL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Soxfest said: Fulmer is officially a complete wasted draft pick. Jay to 60 day DL what a awful signing. And Rick Hahn is enjoying his GM salary. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 On 5/5/2019 at 12:07 AM, Lip Man 1 said: Personally I'd cut both of these stiffs and admit that a very high first round pick was blown. Aren't you a "sports writer"? How do you lack such basic fundamental understanding of roster management? Its mind blowing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 Not that I think it would resurrect Carson Fulmers career or anything but in the offseason we heard a few things about Fulmer. One, he went to driveline, where he said he ditched his cutter because it was making his four seamer less controllable and curve worse. Basically all of his pitches were becoming his cutter. But, I don't know. He started throwing his cutter more often this year, a welcome development, but they just started to hit that more than last year. I don't know that there is anything left with fulmer to try, but he didn't really try his changes from driveline. He just can't locate. His changeup is pretty good, but he doesn't have a fastball that he can throw for strikes, and even the ones he does throw for strikes get hammered. Too much side to side not enough up down movement with him. Good luck to him, but I don't know that he'll be able to find control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 30 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Aren't you a "sports writer"? How do you lack such basic fundamental understanding of roster management? Its mind blowing. I'm simply tired of seeing the same stiffs, rejects, has-been's and the like continue to get chance after chance after chance after chance for the past SEVERAL seasons and continue to get the shit beat out of them. I repeat my point, the Sox are three years into the rebuild, where is at least some quality organizational depth? If all they can do is continue to give these stiffs more chances that indicates to me am even bigger issue. But I'm just tired of seeing the same garbage on the mound? Aren't you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 11 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: I'm simply tired of seeing the same stiffs, rejects, has-been's and the like continue to get chance after chance after chance after chance for the past SEVERAL seasons and continue to get the shit beat out of them. I repeat my point, the Sox are three years into the rebuild, where is at least some quality organizational depth? If all they can do is continue to give these stiffs more chances that indicates to me am even bigger issue. But I'm just tired of seeing the same garbage on the mound? Aren't you? Releasing players with options is beyond idiotic. Even if you personally don't think they're any good. No reason to give away assets when you don't need to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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