Moan4Yoan Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 55 minutes ago, bmags said: Mike Montgomery I hope this is sarcasm. Why in the blue hell would we want him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 32 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: Happ and Alzolay from the Cubs. I doubt that they'll trade Hoerner. Alzolay helps now because they can slide him in their rotation and it gives them another arm with upside. Happ gives them a competent 2B and RF. Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, joejoedairy said: Muller and Waters? sounds like a mediocre blues cover band. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 3 hours ago, DH in the NL said: What are realistic expectations for a guy that was traded for Omar Narvaez? It feels like teams would be looking at Colome as a guy they could get for nothing Colome is not going anywhere for the likes of Narvaez. For someone that views their need for a back of rotation arm to be the missing piece...you can extract a very stiff price. Ask a Cub fan about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnin' two Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 5 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said: sounds like a mediocre blues cover band. Disagree, sounds like a great blues cover band. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 26 minutes ago, bubba phillips said: A story in MLB.com said that there were scouts from 5 or 6 teams looking at Colome this week. Competition is good to drive up the price. I would think the best offer (if it is a prospect) would be in the 50-100 range He will do better than a 50-100 IMO. Worth his weight in gold to someone in need of just one premium arm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiddleCoastBias Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 31 minutes ago, TomPickle said: Trade Colome and sign Kimbrel I feel like teams are going to wait until after Kimbrel signs (and thus after the draft) to read for Colome. Whoever loses out on the Kimbrel sweepstakes will have to pony up a prospect for Colome. I imagine contenders' priorities likely lay in spending money without giving up a player first, and then trade prospects for Colome as a consolation prize. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 Half this board thinks Madrigal is nothing and guys like him are a dime a dozen. Those same people would give a #3 like Madrigal away in a deal for a closer if that stood between winning or not. All of a sudden the thought is that 50-100 is the price. Wait it out...someone will pay up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 2 hours ago, Baron said: I'd say put a silly value on him and if teams dont meet it just keep him. I agree with that. Desperate teams might pay up cause of only 1 trade deadline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 35 minutes ago, poppysox said: Half this board thinks Madrigal is nothing and guys like him are a dime a dozen. Those same people would give a #3 like Madrigal away in a deal for a closer if that stood between winning or not. All of a sudden the thought is that 50-100 is the price. Wait it out...someone will pay up. I would not trade Nick Madrigal for Alex Colome. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 Colome cost a decent controllable catcher in Narvaez, so you would have to get somebody decent or it’s not worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 Can we interest anyone in a slightly used Kelvin Herrera? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 14 minutes ago, bmags said: I would not trade Nick Madrigal for Alex Colome. If we theoretically made that trade, who pays the rest of Colome's salary? The White Sox or Winston Salem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, wegner said: Can we interest anyone in a slightly used Kelvin Herrera? "certified pre owned" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said: "certified pre owned" Chicago White Sox...the CarMax of MLB...we will sign your brother in law even if you do not sign with us 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gusguyman Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, chitownsportsfan said: That extra year of control is worth a lot. Waiting to trade him you risk 1) injury, 2) performance dip and for sure 3) less trade value due to less control for acquiring club If you chase two rabbits you'll lose them both. Learned that in Civ 4. Just trade him while he's at peak value. The Sox can find a closer when they are good. Ah, a gentleman of taste I see. Your lesson was a lot better than mine, which was "Don't fuck with Ghandi after the Industrial Era." Haven't found a situation where that was useful yet, but I am hopeful. Edited May 31, 2019 by gusguyman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuliusO1274 Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 25 minutes ago, Timmy U said: Colome cost a decent controllable catcher in Narvaez, so you would have to get somebody decent or it’s not worth it. Narvaez is good not decent and he is becoming great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 6 minutes ago, JuliusO1274 said: Narvaez is good not decent and he is becoming great. Fair enough. The point remains the same. Getting a Tilson or Cordell would be a bad outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBWSF Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 If Colome gets traded I just hope the team gets something decent in return. I don't want another David Robertson for Blake Rutherford trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 1 minute ago, JuliusO1274 said: Narvaez is good not decent and he is becoming great. All around, Narvaez is very decent. He is not anywhere near good enough of defender to be considered a good catcher, and he's too light hitting to be a 1B or DH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 8 minutes ago, WBWSF said: If Colome gets traded I just hope the team gets something decent in return. I don't want another David Robertson for Blake Rutherford trade. Yes, let's avoid acquiring a top 50 prospect for a RP because the last similar trade has not reaped immediate benefits. BRILLIANT I SAY, JUST BRILLIANT! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 2 hours ago, TomPickle said: Trade Colome and sign Kimbrel If you are going to do that, you sign Kimbrel first, then trade Colome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 9 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: All around, Narvaez is very decent. He is not anywhere near good enough of defender to be considered a good catcher, and he's too light hitting to be a 1B or DH. He's still a terrible catcher defensively. The advanced metrics hated him last year, but they hate him slightly less this year. With how bad our DHs have been historically, I'd take his consistent 120 wRC+ there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 1 hour ago, bmags said: I would not trade Nick Madrigal for Alex Colome. Neither would I, I'm saying their are highly drafted people who are expendable to some organizations. Some guy is good but blocked, etc. You don't need to settle for some 50-100 crap shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 22 minutes ago, chw42 said: He's still a terrible catcher defensively. The advanced metrics hated him last year, but they hate him slightly less this year. With how bad our DHs have been historically, I'd take his consistent 120 wRC+ there. He wouldn’t be a 120 wRC+ DH though without significant improvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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