Timmy U Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 On 6/11/2019 at 4:14 PM, Y2Jimmy0 said: I would think so. It's easy to assume that Vaughn, Thompson and Beard will all sign for slot. Use the 5-10 round savings to sign Dalquist. Expand Why the heck would you sign Vaughn for slot? He was never going 1 or 2 and Miami wasn't taking him. Anything above slot for 5 is the best he was ever going to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenericUserName Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 On 6/12/2019 at 3:23 AM, Timmy U said: Why the heck would you sign Vaughn for slot? He was never going 1 or 2 and Miami wasn't taking him. Anything above slot for 5 is the best he was ever going to do. Expand He might have slid to 5, but 5 could have also then offered him over slot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 On 6/11/2019 at 7:05 PM, Jack Parkman said: What are the odds that they can't get Dalquist to sign? 25%? Expand I'd be shocked if Dalquist did not sign. Teams contact player's agents prior to making draft selections in order to know what pricetag they have. Dalquist reportedly is asking for $2 million and Sox will get him inked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 On 6/12/2019 at 1:00 PM, GenericUserName said: He might have slid to 5, but 5 could have also then offered him over slot. Expand Vaughn might sign for a bit below slot, as he likely would have fallen to #5 if the Sox did not select him? Regardless he was the correct pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 12, 2019 Author Share Posted June 12, 2019 Don't play games with it, sox probably negotiated with this before pick was made, they'll pay what was agreed to. Vaughn had leverage pre-draft. Sox aren't going to dick around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palehosefan Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 On 6/12/2019 at 3:07 PM, bmags said: Don't play games with it, sox probably negotiated with this before pick was made, they'll pay what was agreed to. Vaughn had leverage pre-draft. Sox aren't going to dick around. Expand Not being a dick, but what leverage does a college junior have? You turn down multi-millions to come back and have zero leverage as a senior? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 12, 2019 Author Share Posted June 12, 2019 On 6/12/2019 at 3:29 PM, Palehosefan said: Not being a dick, but what leverage does a college junior have? You turn down multi-millions to come back and have zero leverage as a senior? Expand He has the leverage of other teams being able to select him offering over slot, and yes, refusing to sign. While that may not pay off individually for Vaughn, he could go play indy ball for a year, and the sox would have lost a top 3 pick and it's amount for their draft pool. So it would be a pain to the sox. And screwing over agents and players isn't wise in the long run. If what you are saying is true, why would any college juniors make anywhere near slot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palehosefan Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 On 6/12/2019 at 4:07 PM, bmags said: If what you are saying is true, why would any college juniors make anywhere near slot? Expand I think that is the direction the draft will head similar to basketball. High school players will rule the draft, and it will take a college superstar to remain a top 10 pick. Development time in an advanced metrics MLB farm system will top most college programs for numerous reasons. College players are becoming financial fodder so that teams can truly draft the elite high school talent and sign them. https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/draft-system-has-pushed-teams-to-pick-more-college-players/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 On 6/12/2019 at 4:07 PM, bmags said: He has the leverage of other teams being able to select him offering over slot, and yes, refusing to sign. While that may not pay off individually for Vaughn, he could go play indy ball for a year, and the sox would have lost a top 3 pick and it's amount for their draft pool. So it would be a pain to the sox. And screwing over agents and players isn't wise in the long run. If what you are saying is true, why would any college juniors make anywhere near slot? Expand You love Houston, and I understand why, but then you make the point that screwing over agents and players isnt a good long term plan. That is houstons issue, imo. They treat people soley as assets and openly admit that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 On 6/11/2019 at 7:05 PM, Jack Parkman said: What are the odds that they can't get Dalquist to sign? 25%? Expand He's 100% signing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 On 6/12/2019 at 6:53 PM, Y2Jimmy0 said: He's 100% signing Expand No argument, but you sound like Wite from the Rodon days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
credezcrew24 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 Looking at past drafts 2018 - Madrigal was the first to receive full slot value at #4 Kelenic was the first over-slot at #6 2017 - Lewis pick #1 was the only under-slot pick in the top 5 2016 - Ray was the first to go over-slot at #5 2015 - Jay was the first to receive full slot value at #6 2014 - Rodon went over-slot at #3 the next player to go over-slot was Trea Turner at #13 So in general you're most likely to sign a top 3 pick under-slot, however 2017 was a lot different than other recent drafts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 13, 2019 Author Share Posted June 13, 2019 On 6/12/2019 at 5:47 PM, Look at Ray Ray Run said: You love Houston, and I understand why, but then you make the point that screwing over agents and players isnt a good long term plan. That is houstons issue, imo. They treat people soley as assets and openly admit that. Expand Sounds like a big issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 13, 2019 Author Share Posted June 13, 2019 Witt signed yesterday, so hoping Vaughn gets wrapped up soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Soxfan Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 Interesting that none of the first four pick signings have been announced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 13, 2019 Author Share Posted June 13, 2019 https://www.milb.com/great-falls/news/white-sox-release-voyagers-opening-day-roster/c-308065266?tcid=tw_article_308065266 So a lot of these we already knew. But I think these are new: - Cam Simmons (UVA) is on here, so signed - Joshua Rivera (chipola jc) - Solesky (tulane) - Kaleb Roper (tulane) - Connor Reich (Texas State) Jason Morgan is on there...is he a UDFA? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneDog847 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 On 6/13/2019 at 7:02 PM, sox71 said: Interesting that none of the first four pick signings have been announced. Expand Yep. Let's hope something isn't amiss. The draft was 10 days ago. I'm sure everyone took the rest of last week after the draft off. This week should be all business though. I'm excited to watch Vaughn smash. Let's get these kids signed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 13, 2019 Author Share Posted June 13, 2019 On 6/13/2019 at 7:36 PM, OneDog847 said: Yep. Let's hope something isn't amiss. The draft was 10 days ago. I'm sure everyone took the rest of last week after the draft off. This week should be all business though. I'm excited to watch Vaughn smash. Let's get these kids signed! Expand Continue freak out. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneDog847 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 On 6/13/2019 at 8:12 PM, bmags said: Continue freak out. Expand Good news. Freak out over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 I love the annual freak out about the possibility of not signing picks in the first 10 rounds. Maybe next year we need a pin in all bold detailing how rare it is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 13, 2019 Author Share Posted June 13, 2019 On 6/13/2019 at 8:39 PM, DirtySox said: I love the annual freak out about the possibility of not signing picks in the first 10 rounds. Maybe next year we need a pin in all bold detailing how rare it is. Expand Likely means there is an injury which sucks for all involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 On 6/13/2019 at 8:50 PM, bmags said: Likely means there is an injury which sucks for all involved. Expand Why do you say that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 On 6/13/2019 at 9:09 PM, ChiSox59 said: Why do you say that? Expand He means in the rare case that a pick in the top 10 rounds doesn't sign, it's likely because of an injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 On 6/13/2019 at 9:11 PM, DirtySox said: He means in the rare case that a pick in the top 10 rounds doesn't sign, it's likely because of an injury. Expand Ahhh, got it. Thought he was insinuating one of the Sox top 4 picks may be dealing with an injury. NEVERMIND! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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