KnightsOnMintSt Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 When Nick Madrigal gets promoted to the White Sox, where should he bat? I think the answer would generally be lead off, but I like the idea of him batting 9th. Assuming our top prospects pan out, the top/middle part of the lineup could look something like this: 1. Robert 2. Moncada 3. Jimenez 4. Vaughn 5. Abreu I like the idea of Madrigal batting 9th, with that top/middle part of the lineup coming up after him. Thoughts? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 If he's an OBP machine I could see him leading off. But if that spot belongs to Robert, 9th makes perfect sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaDoc Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 If he continues to steal well, rarely k's, not a pure pull hitter by any means, would the two hole be unreasonable? Gotta figure any time Robert on first and Madrigal singles, Robert goes to third. Also Madrigals patience may allow Robert to steal second. First third situation may allow Madrigal to take second? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 13 minutes ago, KnightsOnMintSt said: When Nick Madrigal gets promoted to the White Sox, where should he bat? I think the answer would generally be lead off, but I like the idea of him batting 9th. Assuming our top prospects pan out, the top/middle part of the lineup could look something like this: 1. Robert 2. Moncada 3. Jimenez 4. Vaughn 5. Abreu I like the idea of Madrigal batting 9th, with that top/middle part of the lineup coming up after him. Thoughts? Too soon to really project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 At this point I see him as a 9 hole hitter for a while and hope around age 25 he starts to put it together. I think he's going to need a lot of reps to get his offensive game to maturity and I hope at maturity it is a bat you'd put at the top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 I've been saying 9. If he gains more strength over the years I could see him eventually being 1 or 2. Obviously this is all projection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 I don't know, but I do think that Renteria/Vizquel will gift him the 1/2 spot even if Robert/Moncada/Anderson are more deserving Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighurt574 Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 3 hours ago, steveno89 said: Too soon to really project. Filling out the rest of that lineup is really the million dollar question. When this rebuild began, we were very top heavy. We had some valuable assets (Sale, Q, Eaton, etc.), but not nearly enough depth to actually be competitive. With a bunch of our second-tier prospects hurt or struggling, I'm worried we're headed to the same place again. If we don't right that ship, we're going to have to make some smart FA signings and/or trades to fill the gap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, bighurt574 said: Filling out the rest of that lineup is really the million dollar question. When this rebuild began, we were very top heavy. We had some valuable assets (Sale, Q, Eaton, etc.), but not nearly enough depth to actually be competitive. With a bunch of our second-tier prospects hurt or struggling, I'm worried we're headed to the same place again. If we don't right that ship, we're going to have to make some smart FA signings and/or trades to fill the gap. Couldn’t agree more. They need to use resources to improve the core, as too many failed prospects have killed the depth. That’s fine if the main guys are stars, but there’s not enough in the system to plug all the holes. It’s disappointing so many resources were put into acquiring outfielders and starting pitching, and there are so few sure things out there now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstar Lamar Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 also need to ask, where should he play? I would like to see him develop some defensive diversity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoedairy Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 17 hours ago, fathom said: Couldn’t agree more. They need to use resources to improve the core, as too many failed prospects have killed the depth. That’s fine if the main guys are stars, but there’s not enough in the system to plug all the holes. It’s disappointing so many resources were put into acquiring outfielders and starting pitching, and there are so few sure things out there now. Feels a little early to call them all "failed prospects". I mean guys can struggle for half a season or even longer and still end up in the majors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 2 hours ago, Superstar Lamar said: also need to ask, where should he play? I would like to see him develop some defensive diversity. A whole lot of people have suggested that him being a gold-glove caliber 2b will make up for his weak offensive performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 I think Madrigal will lead off, and Robert will hit in the middle of the order with Vaughn and Eloy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 If**** Madrigal gets to the White Sox. We really penciling this guy in? He didn't do anything special in A+. Let's pump the brakes here 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 19 minutes ago, ron883 said: If**** Madrigal gets to the White Sox. We really penciling this guy in? He didn't do anything special in A+. Let's pump the brakes here "Didn't do anything?" His OPS was right around .800 in his last 20 or so games. Pay attention Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 2 hours ago, soxfan49 said: "Didn't do anything?" His OPS was right around .800 in his last 20 or so games. Pay attention Wow, an OPS of 800 over 20 games in A+ as an advanced prospect. Color me impressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perfect Vision Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 3 hours ago, ron883 said: If**** Madrigal gets to the White Sox. We really penciling this guy in? He didn't do anything special in A+. Let's pump the brakes here I think it's safe to assume that if Madrigal can maintain even just a .700 OPS at AA and AAA, he will become the Sox starting 2B in short order. The biggest question to me isn't whether he's going to make it, it's whether in time he can become an offensive force at the top of the lineup (.350+ OBP, .800 OPS), or whether he's a bottom-of-the-order role player who provides most of his value on defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 2 hours ago, ron883 said: Wow, an OPS of 800 over 20 games in A+ as an advanced prospect. Color me impressed. But you said "didn't do anything" so once again you're wrong. If Madrigal has an .800 ops in the MLB with no K's and a really good glove, he's going to be a good player for a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 10 minutes ago, soxfan49 said: But you said "didn't do anything" so once again you're wrong. If Madrigal has an .800 ops in the MLB with no K's and a really good glove, he's going to be a good player for a long time. He had an .800 for 20 freaking games as an advanced player in A+. Let's slow down on projecting those stats as an MLB player. He hasn't proven anything to me yet. He didn't light the world on fire at A+ and could have stayed longer. Let's see how he does at AA before we slate him as an all-star. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Hit in first at bat. Batting 1000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Nick strikes me as the kind of guy who's numbers won't fluctuate much upon promotion. The contact rate was still elite in A+, I imagine it'll still be pretty damn good in AA and AAA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 50 minutes ago, ron883 said: He had an .800 for 20 freaking games as an advanced player in A+. Let's slow down on projecting those stats as an MLB player. He hasn't proven anything to me yet. He didn't light the world on fire at A+ and could have stayed longer. Let's see how he does at AA before we slate him as an all-star. Who slated him as an all star? You said he did nothing. He raked over the last 20 games and got promoted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 On 6/5/2019 at 12:26 PM, KnightsOnMintSt said: When Nick Madrigal gets promoted to the White Sox, where should he bat? I think the answer would generally be lead off, but I like the idea of him batting 9th. Assuming our top prospects pan out, the top/middle part of the lineup could look something like this: 1. Robert 2. Moncada 3. Jimenez 4. Vaughn 5. Abreu I like the idea of Madrigal batting 9th, with that top/middle part of the lineup coming up after him. Thoughts? I think the 9 spot makes a lot of sense, especially if Moncada stays in the 2 spot. Robert kind of is a wildcard though. I could see him leading off or be a solid middle of the order bat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Ideally with his bat control and lack of strikeouts he should be in the two hole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 33 minutes ago, BigHurt3515 said: Ideally with his bat control and lack of strikeouts he should be in the two hole Yes, I feel like he’s getting the lead off guy to third, stealing second, and getting the #3 hitter a free walk to load the bases or ducks on the old pond. Robert is so fast. I’m leaning towards him being leadoff so he can easily score on a Madrigal double or easily take third on a single. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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