Boopa1219 Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 If Zobrist doesn’t file for divorce and takes a personal leave, the Cubs don’t sign Kimbrel. He did them a favor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneDog847 Posted June 6, 2019 Author Share Posted June 6, 2019 9 minutes ago, soxfan3530 said: I agree that we are not winning a bidding war for Cole. So if we are looking at guys like a declining Bumgardner, why just sign Keuchel now (Probably for less money)? Cole is gonna get paid if he makes it through this year unscathed. Whispers that the Cubs will be going after him heavily with Hamels coming off the books. Yankees will probably be serious bidders as well. Sox didn't budget for Keuchel this year. JR isn't going to give the guy 10 million plus to pitch during a tank year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince34 Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 I would have big time interest in Zach Wheeler really put together last year in the 2nd half. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneDog847 Posted June 6, 2019 Author Share Posted June 6, 2019 2 hours ago, bmags said: derek dietrich 45 minutes ago, raBBit said: 1) Catcher - Grandal - Overpay this man - 3/63 2) Versatile lefty bat - Derek Dietrich (buy high) or Scooter Gennett (buy low). - 2 yr 20 mil - ish 3) Established lefty starter - Bumgarner/Hill/Miley/Alex Wood 4) Resign Abreu 1 year, 14 mil 5) Relievers 6) Right Field - Trade Jace Fry, Blake Rutherford and Luis Mieses for Brandon Nimmo. ------------------------------------------ C - Grandal/McCann/Collins 1B - Abreu/Collins 2B - Gennett (Madrigal Eventually) 3B - Moncada SS - Anderson LF - Jimenez CF - Leury/Robert RF - Nimmo DH - Collins/Abreu/Gennett/Moncada/Jimenez SP - 1) Giolito 2) LHP FA 3) Cease 4) Kopech 5) Temp/Dunning/Rodon (eventually) 1) CF Robert 2) 3B Moncada 3) 1B Abreu 4) C Grandal 5) LF Jimenez 6) RF Nimmo 7) SS Anderson ? DH Collins 9) 2B Gennett Bench: McCann, Leury, Yolmer Derek Dietrich is interesting. My concern is that he is in the midst of a career year. Will the Sox get the 3 War player from this year or the 0.4 WAR guy from 2018? Also, he seems like the kind of guy who would come to the AL and forget how to hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, PolishPrince34 said: I would have big time interest in Zach Wheeler really put together last year in the 2nd half. Honestly, I'm interested in both Bumgarner and Wheeler, should they decide to non-tender Rodon. (I don't think they will but you never know) the rotation next year would then be: Giolito Bumgarner Wheeler/Kopech Kopech/Wheeler Cease You could go to war with that. Edited June 6, 2019 by Jack Parkman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, OneDog847 said: Derek Dietrich is interesting. My concern is that he is in the midst of a career year. Will the Sox get the 3 War player from this year or the 0.4 WAR guy from 2018? Also, he seems like the kind of guy who would come to the AL and forget how to hit. He's going to be 30 with one good year. If he's bad you move on. If he's good you get production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierSox Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 2 hours ago, bmags said: derek dietrich Agreed. Left handed bat with some pop. Can play multiple positions. Shouldn't be too expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, HoosierSox said: Agreed. Left handed bat with some pop. Can play multiple positions. Shouldn't be too expensive. Thought he has another season of arbitration though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 I'm on board with Bumgarner. The staff needs a vet and a lefty. He'd fill 2 holes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 1 minute ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: Thought he has another season of arbitration though? https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2018/08/2019-20-mlb-free-agents.html this had him as a free agent this upcoming offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Dietrich isn't just a one year wonder. I mean sure, this is the one year that he's playing at an MVP level. But he has always been a solid hitter. Even if he isn't the absolute monster he is right now, he at least has a track record of being a versatile player with decent offense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneDog847 Posted June 6, 2019 Author Share Posted June 6, 2019 41 minutes ago, PolishPrince34 said: I would have big time interest in Zach Wheeler really put together last year in the 2nd half. 29 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: Honestly, I'm interested in both Bumgarner and Wheeler, should they decide to non-tender Rodon. (I don't think they will but you never know) the rotation next year would then be: Giolito Bumgarner Wheeler/Kopech Kopech/Wheeler Cease You could go to war with that. Zach Wheeler seems like a Yu Darvish situation waiting to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 6 minutes ago, OneDog847 said: Zach Wheeler seems like a Yu Darvish situation waiting to happen. Quality starting pitching is always going to be really expensive in free agency. Sox need to take a hard look at themselves and determine if they are really willing to finally outbid other clubs for the premium talent? Until proven otherwise we have every reason to doubt. Cole/Wheeler/Bumgarner/Rendon all would be pricey additions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince34 Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Wheeler will be no where near $126 million Darvish signed with the Cubs. More close to what Evoladi signed with Boston. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 3 hours ago, Balta1701 said: I'd probably put a decent wager on the White Sox signing 0 of those guys. KW will get his man in Puig and look for a "Dye" like return to the fold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 5 minutes ago, beautox said: KW will get his man in Puig and look for a "Dye" like return to the fold. I would not be against a Puig addition for the right price. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 (edited) Give me Cole. And give me a lefty (Wood, Ryu, Hill - shit, maybe Bumgarner, but I don't see Cole and Bumgarner happening). Give me Grandal. Gennett is interesting on a 1 year deal, but he likely gets more. Dedtrich would be interesting too and his versatility is nice so we can use move him around when Madrigal arrives. But I don't think Dedtrich is a FA until 2021. Resign Abreu. I've banged the Castellanos and Ozuna drum, but with the Sox drafting Vaughn, it pigeonholes those guys into RF long term, as I believe Abreu will be resigned, and we also have Collins. No room for them to DH or shift to 1B, really. OF defense just too poor with Eloy and Castellanos/Ozuna, so just not sure there is really a fit. Line-up come June: Robert CF, Moncada 3B, Eloy LF, Abreu 1b, Grandal C, Gennett/Madrigal 2B, Anderson SS, Collins DH, Leury RF BN: McCann, Yolmer, Tilson/Cordell Rotation: Cole, Giolito, Kopech, Cease, Wood/Ryu Edited June 6, 2019 by ChiSox59 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 1 hour ago, bmags said: https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2018/08/2019-20-mlb-free-agents.html this had him as a free agent this upcoming offseason. Nah, hes arb eligible next season. Came in 2019 with a tad over 4 years service time. He won't be a FA until 2021. Too bad, I do like the fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwill Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Anthony Rendon- The best baseball player of the last two free agent classes. Spend the damn money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 18 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Nah, hes arb eligible next season. Came in 2019 with a tad over 4 years service time. He won't be a FA until 2021. Too bad, I do like the fit. That is very annoying. I would not trade for him. Money? Woulda risked it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, kwill said: Anthony Rendon- The best baseball player of the last two free agent classes. Spend the damn money. You could, in theory go with Rendon and move Moncada to RF. I'm not a fan of that though, as I don't want to jerk Moncada around in the field. I'd like them to acquire a LH bat to play RF. Edited June 6, 2019 by Jack Parkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 10 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: You could, in theory go with Rendon and move Moncada to RF. I'm not a fan of that though. I'd like them to acquire a LH bat to play RF. I'd move Rendon to 2B, or Moncada back to 2B before I moved Moncada to RF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: I'd move Rendon to 2B, or Moncada back to 2B before I moved Moncada to RF. I think we've pretty much established that Moncada isn't that good at 2B. His bat can carry him there, but he's not that great in the field. Either are an option. Edited June 6, 2019 by Jack Parkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 I wonder what Caleb Smith of the Marlins or John Means of the Orioles would cost in a trade. Both are young, left handed starting pitchers with a lot of team control. Might be easier to get a starting pitcher through a trade than through free agency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Whitesox27 said: I wonder what Caleb Smith of the Marlins or John Means of the Orioles would cost in a trade. Both are young, left handed starting pitchers with a lot of team control. Might be easier to get a starting pitcher through a trade than through free agency. Means is on my fantasy team (picked him up like 3-4 weeks ago) and I keep waiting for him to implode and he has yet to. Edited June 6, 2019 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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