TBrown54 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Alonso 2019 Contract Status: Signed thru 2019, 2 yrs/$16M (18-19) & 20 team option. Is Alonso making too much to be benched? Is it up to Renteria? Seems like much of blame on this board is directed at RR. But if FO won't expel Alonso, what choice does RR have? Bench him and incur the wrath of FO? I think RR has little to gain by standing up to his bosses in a tank year. Plus, whomever else he plugs in is probably not much better, anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 According to a story at MLB.com and at the Sox web site, he's been given some time off to "get a mental respite." Which is a polite way of saying he sucks and needs to be benched. Better late than never I suppose by the Sox. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 11 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: According to a story at MLB.com and at the Sox web site, he's been given some time off to "get a mental respite." Which is a polite way of saying he sucks and needs to be benched. Better late than never I suppose by the Sox. I'd only play him against Cleveland. He seems to have helped us turn our fortunes around a bit against the Tribe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 1 hour ago, TBrown54 said: Alonso 2019 Contract Status: Signed thru 2019, 2 yrs/$16M (18-19) & 20 team option. Is Alonso making too much to be benched? Is it up to Renteria? Seems like much of blame on this board is directed at RR. But if FO won't expel Alonso, what choice does RR have? Bench him and incur the wrath of FO? I think RR has little to gain by standing up to his bosses in a tank year. Plus, whomever else he plugs in is probably not much better, anyway. I understand your point about Alonso being in the game. My beef with RR is lineup construction and the miserable job with handling the bullpen. I really do wonder what bench coach & Coop are doing in this regard. Just kind of amateurish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 Dump him for literally anything 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 I think Alonso put a lot of pressure on himself because people perceive he was hired to lure his brother in law. He was a major league hitter before he got here and I won't be surprised if he hits again when he leaves. I would like to see RR bat him 6 or 7 and play1 st. base half the time. When he first got here...I liked his approach at the plate. Now he seems to swing away to get it over with. I think it's 50-50 we trade Abreu. We might be needing Alonso until reinforcements arrive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierSox Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 They need to make sure he doesn't get 550 at bats so his option doesn't vest for next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 9 minutes ago, HoosierSox said: They need to make sure he doesn't get 550 at bats so his option doesn't vest for next year. If Sox extend Abreu...Alonso is gone. If Sox Trade Abreu...who knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierSox Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 9 minutes ago, poppysox said: If Sox extend Abreu...Alonso is gone. If Sox Trade Abreu...who knows? There is no way they are going to pay Alonso another 9 million even if Abreu is gone. Palka or Skole would be better options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 1 hour ago, HoosierSox said: They need to make sure he doesn't get 550 at bats so his option doesn't vest for next year. Actually it’s just 526 plate appearances that he needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisox378 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 Give Alonso time, until the all Star break. I think he will come around soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 This is a full calendar year of awful for Alonso now. Remember, he was horrid in the second half for Cleveland last year, which is why they essentially undid their 2017 offseason and replaced him and Encarnacion with Santana. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWINFan Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 One simple option is stop batting him fourth. We don't need to relive Adam Dunn and LaRoache. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBrown54 Posted June 9, 2019 Author Share Posted June 9, 2019 4 hours ago, poppysox said: I think Alonso put a lot of pressure on himself because people perceive he was hired to lure his brother in law. He was a major league hitter before he got here and I won't be surprised if he hits again when he leaves. I would like to see RR bat him 6 or 7 and play1 st. base half the time. When he first got here...I liked his approach at the plate. Now he seems to swing away to get it over with. I think it's 50-50 we trade Abreu. We might be needing Alonso until reinforcements arrive. Listening to WSCR, they said something like Sox have averaged only 3.3 runs per game during Giolito's streak. If Abreu traded, there goes any chance for 2019 Cy Young Award. Then looking past 2019, my fear is that Kenny ensures Giolito's White Sox career will be wasted similar to Chis Sale's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 (edited) He’s awful. A waste of $9 million for this season. Don’t make the mistake of letting his $9 million option vest so we have to watch him suck again next year. Edited June 9, 2019 by Moan4Yoan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneDog847 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 9 minutes ago, Moan4Yoan said: He’s awful. A waste of $9 million for this season. Don’t make the mistake of letting his $9 million option vest so we have to watch him suck again next year. Yep. It's time to DFA him and bring up Palka or Skole. Alonso has no trade value whatsoever. He needs to go yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, OneDog847 said: Yep. It's time to DFA him and bring up Palka or Skole. Alonso has no trade value whatsoever. He needs to go yesterday. Agreed, even if Palka sucks, he won’t cost $9 million next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 DFA him and just eat the $6M or whatever is left on the contract. There are more interesting options available that might actually contribute to winning games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneDog847 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 1 minute ago, SouthWallace said: DFA him and just eat the $6M or whatever is left on the contract. There are more interesting options available that might actually contribute to winning games. Yep. Alonso and Jay should have been released the day after Machado signed with San Diego. 2019 is a developmental year. There is no place for useless veterans on the position player side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 There is zero reason to give Alonso at bats at this point. The first 2 weeks of the season he was walking a ton and had a couple homers. Since then he has been a pit. Probably doesn't help Ricky just won't stop batting him 4th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBrown54 Posted June 9, 2019 Author Share Posted June 9, 2019 7 minutes ago, OneDog847 said: Yep. Alonso and Jay should have been released the day after Machado signed with San Diego. 2019 is a developmental year. There is no place for useless veterans on the position player side. White Sox are THE place for useless veterans on the position player side. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 30 minutes ago, SouthWallace said: DFA him and just eat the $6M or whatever is left on the contract. There are more interesting options available that might actually contribute to winning games. But DFA'ing him makes the front office looks bad doesn't it? Don't think for a second that isn't a factor in all this, not with some of the ego's running things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 25 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: But DFA'ing him makes the front office looks bad doesn't it? Don't think for a second that isn't a factor in all this, not with some of the ego's running things. At some point, you can’t hide the failure any longer. I would say at almost halfway through the season, acquiring a $9 million dollar DH with a .605 OPS is an epic failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Lip Man 1 said: But DFA'ing him makes the front office looks bad doesn't it? Don't think for a second that isn't a factor in all this, not with some of the ego's running things. You keep pushing this out there when they've admitted mistakes in the past and DFA'd several veterans (some highly paid) that were severely underperforming. This is a tired argument man. Yes, they probably want to give him opportunities to try and get out of it so they can attempt to trade him for a bag of balls or a washing machine, but don't act like they're too scared to cut bait with certain sunk costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 Alonso joins the litany of hitters who come to Chicago to die. If they cut him off they could face a grievance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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