Chicago White Sox Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 2 hours ago, poppysox said: To be fair...I don't think any of us saw Alonso stinking up the place to this level. But that doesn’t change the decision right now to simply move on from him. As has been repeated multiple teams, the dude is a sunk cost and we have better options available that warrant those at-bats. The chance of him getting hot enough for someone to take on his salary is slim to none. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 Pavin smith isn't even very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 Like when Gavin SHeets has more homers than you... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 3 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: But that doesn’t change the decision right now to simply move on from him. As has been repeated multiple teams, the dude is a sunk cost and we have better options available that warrant those at-bats. The chance of him getting hot enough for someone to take on his salary is slim to none. I think it was a situation that they felt...surely he will start hitting soon. Now he has become Dunn like. I would sit him for a few days using him for occasional pitch hitting duty. When you want to free up the roster spot is when you release him. I agree that he is lost money at this point. Maybe we should try and trade him to the Padres. They might pay us to keep their star happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 45 minutes ago, poppysox said: I think it was a situation that they felt...surely he will start hitting soon. Now he has become Dunn like. I would sit him for a few days using him for occasional pitch hitting duty. When you want to free up the roster spot is when you release him. I agree that he is lost money at this point. Maybe we should try and trade him to the Padres. They might pay us to keep their star happy. Poor Alonso won't adjust so when he hits the ball it's into the shift. Too bad it appears to be against baseball's unwritten rules to just bunt the ball every time and get hit after hit against the shift. The shift should actually be against baseball's unwritten rules since players refuse to attempt to beat the shift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 7 minutes ago, greg775 said: Poor Alonso won't adjust so when he hits the ball it's into the shift. Too bad it appears to be against baseball's unwritten rules to just bunt the ball every time and get hit after hit against the shift. The shift should actually be against baseball's unwritten rules since players refuse to attempt to beat the shift. The unwritten rules are dumb and Alonso is bad regardless of them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 1 hour ago, greg775 said: Poor Alonso won't adjust so when he hits the ball it's into the shift. Too bad it appears to be against baseball's unwritten rules to just bunt the ball every time and get hit after hit against the shift. The shift should actually be against baseball's unwritten rules since players refuse to attempt to beat the shift. If you were playing golf and kept hooking it into the woods...most of us would try to adjust. Not Alonso. Just keep doing the same things over and over again. Nuts! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: The unwritten rules are dumb and Alonso is bad regardless of them. I don't see what is dumb making teams pay dearly for the shift. Do it enough times and they'll have to stop or always concede you a infield base hit which would REALLY be dumb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 I think the whole shift thing is sickening. Just think if you were on a high school baseball team on down. You come to the plate as a lefthanded hitter. 3 infielders are on the right side and one lone soul near shortstop. Simple physics tells you if you plop it down no way the pitcher or one infielder can get you out. So guess what??? You bunt there EVERY TIME and get a hit every time. If I were the manager I'd bench any kid who didn't bunt that way. Ditto major leagues. DO IT!!! Just bunt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 4 hours ago, greg775 said: I think the whole shift thing is sickening. Just think if you were on a high school baseball team on down. You come to the plate as a lefthanded hitter. 3 infielders are on the right side and one lone soul near shortstop. Simple physics tells you if you plop it down no way the pitcher or one infielder can get you out. So guess what??? You bunt there EVERY TIME and get a hit every time. If I were the manager I'd bench any kid who didn't bunt that way. Ditto major leagues. DO IT!!! Just bunt. In one of the minor leagues later this year that is one of the experimental rules as I recall...banning shifts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 30 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: In one of the minor leagues later this year that is one of the experimental rules as I recall...banning shifts. It may be the Atlantic League, it seems to be the MLB petri dish for trying wild stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said: It may be the Atlantic League, it seems to be the MLB petri dish for trying wild stuff. I think you are correct. They are also moving the pitching rubber back two feet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Lip Man 1 said: I think you are correct. They are also moving the pitching rubber back two feet! Yeah the results of that should be very interesting. I'm sure the pitchers will absolutely hate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Baseball was invented in 1839. Lasted almost 2 centuries with few changes. Yeah...I know about the DH in AL and Playoff team expansion and increasing the schedule from 154 to 162. Now these guys who always know better will move the mound...tell fielders where to stand...and insist that relief pitchers pitch an entire inning. Stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 The Sox scored 10 runs last night. Yonder Alonso wasn't in the lineup last night. Coincidence? I think not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 5 hours ago, poppysox said: Baseball was invented in 1839. Lasted almost 2 centuries with few changes. Yeah...I know about the DH in AL and Playoff team expansion and increasing the schedule from 154 to 162. Now these guys who always know better will move the mound...tell fielders where to stand...and insist that relief pitchers pitch an entire inning. Stupid. The mound was lowered 5 inches in 1968. It was an extraordinarily significant change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 7 hours ago, poppysox said: Baseball was invented in 1839. Lasted almost 2 centuries with few changes. Yeah...I know about the DH in AL and Playoff team expansion and increasing the schedule from 154 to 162. Now these guys who always know better will move the mound...tell fielders where to stand...and insist that relief pitchers pitch an entire inning. Stupid. Good post. You could leave the game completely alone or tinker. There are two big proposed changes meant to combat Sabes a bit, the elimination of the shift and making relievers face more than one hitter. I agree with you that the purist doesn't want to touch the game, but something has to be done. A movie is 1:50 or 2 hours normally, maybe 2:10 if it's got a director who can't cut much stuff. Nine inning baseball games shouldn't be going 3:15. It's fun to stay for the whole game but 3 hours is dumb. I guess I could take it if they don't change the reliever rule or the shift rule if the umps would call the strikezone which is in the rulebook. Umps won't abide by the current rules, they created their own strikezone. If umps agreed to calling the correct strikezone and we had a rule hitters could not leave the batters box once they got in, I'd be OK leaving the shift and letting relievers face just one hitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Greg Hibbard said: The mound was lowered 5 inches in 1968. It was an extraordinarily significant change. Significant doesn't necessarily mean better. Baseball has withstood the test of time. When you change the game every record seems to need an asterisk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 13 hours ago, Sleepy Harold said: Yeah the results of that should be very interesting. I'm sure the pitchers will absolutely hate it. Keep giving the hitter more advantages and someone is going to get killed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Alonso our of the lineup again. Writing is on the wall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 4 hours ago, ChiSox59 said: Alonso our of the lineup again. Writing is on the wall. Any lineup without Alonso works for me. I do think the 5 spot is good for Eloy at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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