fathom Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 On 6/19/2019 at 6:14 PM, chitownsportsfan said: In 2024 when Eloy is a 5 WAR player hitting 290/360/550 annually and Quintana is barely hanging around the league as a back end starter it will be obvious who got the better of the deal. Cease will have his say as well. Expand You mean when Q is back on the Sox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 On 6/19/2019 at 6:18 PM, fathom said: You mean when Q is back on the Sox Expand Where he becomes the first "opener" to start an ASG! Wouldn't that be something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Adding a piece to a team at the exact time the piece is needed is very valuable. You could argue that whatever production you get from Eloy this year is "wasted" in the sense you miss the playoffs (although this is overly simplistic). The gap between Q and the guys he was replacing on their staff was large and at a time they really needed it. Certainly more justifiable than the Aroldis Chapman deal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
35thstreetswarm Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 On 6/19/2019 at 6:22 PM, Jake said: Adding a piece to a team at the exact time the piece is needed is very valuable. You could argue that whatever production you get from Eloy this year is "wasted" in the sense you miss the playoffs (although this is overly simplistic). The gap between Q and the guys he was replacing on their staff was large and at a time they really needed it. Certainly more justifiable than the Aroldis Chapman deal. Expand First time I've heard this take: most believe all is forgiven in the Chapman deal because he helped them win a world series. They have little to show for the Q deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Let's not shit on Q. He was quietly one of the best left-handed pitchers in baseball and their staff was abysmal. He was also on a cheap, long term contract. Verlander hadn't begun his career second wind and wasn't under contract long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 On 6/19/2019 at 6:33 PM, Quin said: Let's not shit on Q. He was quietly one of the best left-handed pitchers in baseball and their staff was abysmal. He was also on a cheap, long term contract. Verlander hadn't begun his career second wind and wasn't under contract long term. Expand Verlander didnt discover PEDs at the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Greg Hibbard Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Would be really funny if in addition to dominating Lucas hits a home run or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Garcia and Moncada. Welp, nothing to see here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Yoan back in the lineup. Hopefully he attempts a swing today. A little surprised to see Leury out there today, especially in CF. He was moving at about 75% speed last night, it seemed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Not even 24 hours ago Moncada couldn't swing the bat right handed, now he is starting. I really don't want him to actually play unless he is 90-100%, the risk isn't worth the reward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Bote, Contreras, Almora in for the Cubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Cordell in the lineup again sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 On 6/19/2019 at 6:51 PM, reiks12 said: Verlander didnt discover PEDs at the time Expand ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba phillips Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 On 6/19/2019 at 6:51 PM, reiks12 said: Verlander didnt discover PEDs at the time Expand Do you know this for a fact or are you assuming PED use because of his rejuvenation? I ask this because there was an excellent story in Sports Illustrated a couple of months ago about how Houston is on the leading edge of the new analytics craze. Since he was traded to the Astros, Verlander has spent countless hours delving into all the new-fangled stuff such as how to increase spin rate, etc. I say that's the reason for his second life. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 On 6/19/2019 at 7:53 PM, BigHurt3515 said: Not even 24 hours ago Moncada couldn't swing the bat right handed, now he is starting. I really don't want him to actually play unless he is 90-100%, the risk isn't worth the reward Expand Did Moncada and Leury get cortisone shots or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 On 6/19/2019 at 8:33 PM, Moan4Yoan said: Did Moncada and Leury get cortisone shots or something? Expand Had to. Which leads me to believe whatever is going on is nothing serious. They both looked like complete shit yesterday though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 On 6/19/2019 at 8:33 PM, Moan4Yoan said: Did Moncada and Leury get cortisone shots or something? Expand They don't inject muscles with cortisone for Moncada's case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Im not sure what the plan here is with Moncada. He didnt seem right yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 I don't buy into the Sox-Cubs thingy. Years ago I did somewhat when we had Kid Jordan in RF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vilehoopster Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Just looked at the radar. I don't see anyway this game gets played. There's a long line of rain coming up from the southwest towards Chicago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southwest Sider Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 On 6/19/2019 at 9:16 PM, vilehoopster said: Just looked at the radar. I don't see anyway this game gets played. There's a long line of rain coming up from the southwest towards Chicago. Expand I was wondering about this as well. I've got tickets but I am not driving into the city an hour and a half just to have to turn around and come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 On 6/19/2019 at 9:16 PM, vilehoopster said: Just looked at the radar. I don't see anyway this game gets played. There's a long line of rain coming up from the southwest towards Chicago. Expand I would think they'd call this early and say screw concession money if they didn't want to play it. Chicago weather has been odd and it may actually get through comfortably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 On 6/19/2019 at 5:53 PM, YoYoIsMyHero said: Imagine if they traded Eloy and Cease for Verlander. Expand As a Sox fan...I wouldn't trade Eloy and Cease for Verlander much less Q. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted June 19, 2019 Author Share Posted June 19, 2019 On 6/19/2019 at 8:47 PM, Soxbadger said: Im not sure what the plan here is with Moncada. He didnt seem right yesterday. Expand I'm with you. I still stand by my thought last night of "sit him until play resumes post ASB" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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