poppysox Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, BackDoorBreach said: We don't have any money on the books. I was assuming a payroll of 150 Million. A 30M per year salary on our current team would be using more than 50%...a ridiculous situation to be in. Our current low committed payroll coupled with the ability to spend at least 150 million now makes us players for any players we desire to pursue. I hope that we pursue pitching and pitching and still more pitching. A right fielder would also be nice. Then go ahead and pursue even more pitching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 3 hours ago, poppysox said: You are right...in 10 years no one will remember which of us is right about Moncada & Madrigal. I have been one of Madrigals biggest supporters on this sight. You tend to be Mr. negative about most things. These are just opinions we have. No one is right or wrong about anything we discuss. Just because you like to be more confrontational doesn't make you any more right in your opinions than anyone else. JUST OPINIONS.? Me ? Mr Negative ? You don't know me at all. I tell the truth and love prospects. I deal in reality. What I just said to you was not negative it was the truth. I call a spade a spade. I don't look at things through rose colored glasses except for prospects because they are young and deserve the benefit of the doubt though I know most won't make it. What I don't do is automatically pencil prospects into a ML career for 10 years let alone predict massive success for them. I want them to succeed , hope they , succeed , wish they all have long careers but I don't use my hopes and wishes to make arguments I can't substantiate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Me ? Mr Negative ? You don't know me at all. I tell the truth and love prospects. I deal in reality. What I just said to you was not negative it was the truth. I call a spade a spade. I don't look at things through rose colored glasses except for prospects because they are young and deserve the benefit of the doubt though I know most won't make it. What I don't do is automatically pencil prospects into a ML career for 10 years let alone predict massive success for them. I want them to succeed , hope they , succeed , wish they all have long careers but I don't use my hopes and wishes to make arguments I can't substantiate. It's called being a fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 8 minutes ago, poppysox said: It's called being a fan. Yes you are a fan as am I and have been here for 15 years, We are just different kinds of fans. I don't have blind faith. I have needled posters such as Fathom for getting on guys like Madrigal and Rutherford. I also have told him he is very knowledgeable and has a great sense of humor. I have got on Moan4Yoan about him ragging on the front office constantly but I have also told him he knows his stuff and it's good he reminds us of the many many mistakes that the FO has made. I call out posters for being overly arrogant and in your case overly and perhaps unrealistically optimistic. I am sorry if you feel I am picking on you. Everyone posts negative comments ,even you . We all wish the best for this team and have many differing opinions on how best to become a winning team. There is no malice in my posts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 I voted once for the first time in a decade and am very upset he lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, bmags said: I voted once for the first time in a decade and am very upset he lost. He’ll still be backup catcher right? I really can’t argue with the results since they make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Just now, Moan4Yoan said: He’ll still be backup catcher right? I really can’t argue with the results since they make sense. Yes but it's stupid they allow the primary votes to bank for the final. They should have weighted my vote more since I hadn't voted in a while. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, bmags said: Yes but it's stupid they allow the primary votes to bank for the final. They should have weighted my vote more since I hadn't voted in a while. Moncada should be a backup too if you ask me. Sox should have three All-Stars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, mqr said: Moncada should be a backup too if you ask me. Sox should have three All-Stars. Nah, Chapman and Devers over Yo. Unfortunately, Moncada is more "valuable" as a 2B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 4 hours ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Me ? Mr Negative ? You don't know me at all. I tell the truth and love prospects. I deal in reality. What I just said to you was not negative it was the truth. I call a spade a spade. I don't look at things through rose colored glasses except for prospects because they are young and deserve the benefit of the doubt though I know most won't make it. What I don't do is automatically pencil prospects into a ML career for 10 years let alone predict massive success for them. I want them to succeed , hope they , succeed , wish they all have long careers but I don't use my hopes and wishes to make arguments I can't substantiate. I've always thought there was a good reason each team drafts about 100 players a year. I rarely get excited about prospects. The last time was probably 20 years ago when we had five sure fire Cy Young prospects that all flamed out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 4 hours ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Yes you are a fan as am I and have been here for 15 years, We are just different kinds of fans. I don't have blind faith. I have needled posters such as Fathom for getting on guys like Madrigal and Rutherford. I also have told him he is very knowledgeable and has a great sense of humor. I have got on Moan4Yoan about him ragging on the front office constantly but I have also told him he knows his stuff and it's good he reminds us of the many many mistakes that the FO has made. I call out posters for being overly arrogant and in your case overly and perhaps unrealistically optimistic. I am sorry if you feel I am picking on you. Everyone posts negative comments ,even you . We all wish the best for this team and have many differing opinions on how best to become a winning team. There is no malice in my posts. Well said. Stay off Madrigal's back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 5 hours ago, poppysox said: It's called being a fan. Being a fan is wanting the prospect to succeed. Being unrealistic is saying the prospect will be better than Machado at any point. Or that the prospect is a surefire great player in the making when trying to discount the acquisition of a 5 to 7 WAR player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, SonofaRoache said: Being a fan is wanting the prospect to succeed. Being unrealistic is saying the prospect will be better than Machado at any point. Or that the prospect is a surefire great player in the making when trying to discount the acquisition of a 5 to 7 WAR player. I didn't say Madrigal would be a better player then Machado...I said he would still be playing winning baseball when Machado had hung em up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Posted June 29, 2019 Author Share Posted June 29, 2019 as of today, before tonight's game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Posted June 29, 2019 Author Share Posted June 29, 2019 (edited) guessing most of his WAR is coming from defense, or is Sanchez that awful behind the plate? Edited June 29, 2019 by Real Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 The ASG is a name recognition big market game. Has nothing to do with sending the best player to the game. Doubt if I'll watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 11 hours ago, Real said: guessing most of his WAR is coming from defense, or is Sanchez that awful behind the plate? Why? McCann has a higher wRC+ than Sanchez this year. Home runs aren't the only thing that matters offensively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 McCann is just plain good. Everything he does looks best of best. By the way...his arm is excellent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 (edited) We’re half way thru the season and McCann has the highest WAR of any catcher in baseball. Who predicted that?! What a steal of a signing by Hahn. The second best FA signing of his tenure after Jose Abreu. It’s great that he’s still arb eligible next season too. Edited June 29, 2019 by JUSTgottaBELIEVE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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