flavum Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Previous tweet said he'll be in Oakland on Friday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 4 hours ago, Moan4Yoan said: “For all intensive purposes,” I think you should “borrow” him some forgiveness. can't take a loose there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Honestly, the Sox should just send Collins back down. They aren't doing him any favors playing him twice a week. Of course he won't be any good because he can't get into any kind of a rhythm. Here's what I'd do. vs RHP: C McCann 1B Abreu DH Reed vs LHP: C McCann 1B Abreu DH Castillo And then Collins would go back to getting everyday at-bats at AAA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Wow, he’s getting called up to MLB. I’d rather see Collins get ABs than him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said: Wow, he’s getting called up to MLB. I’d rather see Collins get ABs than him. If he's only going to play a couple times a week they might as well just let him play 5-6 times a week in Charlotte imo. I dunno, it's a puzzling situation this Reed guy is even less of a prospect than Collins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said: Wow, he’s getting called up to MLB. I’d rather see Collins get ABs than him. Can't help but feel they're low on Collins now. Besides working on McCann on the catching side it's a detriment for him to not at least DH on days he doesn't catch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 (edited) .....So why did the media release say he was going to Charlotte? They really must not think much of anything about Collins. Edited July 9, 2019 by mqr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, TheTruth05 said: Can't help but feel they're low on Collins now. Besides working on McCann on the catching side it's a detriment for him to not at least DH on days he doesn't catch. that appears to the be the writing on the wall. they didn't give half a fuck about starting his arb clock and jerking him around a bit. hey, if their self scouting has improved to the point where they can see the obvious (Collins is currently a borderline MLB player and might never be much more) and are willing to write off a mistake good on them. Edited July 9, 2019 by chitownsportsfan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Just now, chitownsportsfan said: that appears to the be the writing on the wall. they didn't give half a fuck about starting his arb clock and jerking him around a bit. hey, if their self scouting has improved to the point where they can see the obvious (Collins is currently a borderline MLB player and might never be much more) and are willing to write off a mistake good on them. Well said, still think he should get a better shake but if these last couple weeks have shown anything it's that they aren't sold on him as much anymore IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesoxa6 Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Thank god if this means the end of seeing Collins swing through fastballs right at the cock 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Unless Castillo is ready to return, Collins is still going to be around. They seem to be swapping out Palka for Reed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: Unless Castillo is ready to return, Collins is still going to be around. They seem to be swapping out Palka for Reed Point being, they feel the need to bring in a nobody instead of letting Collins play more than once a week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrankinSox Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: Unless Castillo is ready to return, Collins is still going to be around. They seem to be swapping out Palka for Reed Castillo is rehabbing in the minors as we speak. Assuming he is called up very soon, I imagine Collins goes back to AAA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, Whitesoxa6 said: Thank god if this means the end of seeing Collins swing through fastballs right at the cock "cock shot" seems to have fallen out of favor since when I was playing but if you miss your share of "cock shots" at any level you aren't much of a hitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Just now, KrankinSox said: Castillo is rehabbing in the minors as we speak. Assuming he is called up very soon, I imagine Collins goes back to AAA. Good. Get Castillo up here and flip him for a Tatis Jr type, maybe we can get lucky on a lotto ticket for once. He's a 1 WAR backup catcher maybe a bit more if you value his splits against lefties should be able to net a C+ type prospect some org's #15-20 type. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Well, that escalated quickly. Lillian gets her wish. It does make sense to see what he can do in the second half before you have no time and then need to decide whether you keep him or not. The Sox have been DH’ing Jay and Rondon afterall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Certainly changes the dynamic. Though I can't believe yet they are writing Collins off. I mean if they haven't written off Fulmer yet I can't see them doing that to a kid who is barely getting a chance at the big league level. If they are though, that's another black mark against the drafting / developmental part of the organization since Collins was also a first round pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Yeah I would assume Collins will be going down to get regular ABs with Castillo coming back up and AJ Reed basically takes the Alonso spot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GermanSoxFan Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: Certainly changes the dynamic. Though I can't believe yet they are writing Collins off. I mean if they haven't written off Fulmer yet I can't see them doing that to a kid who is barely getting a chance at the big league level. If they are though, that's another black mark against the drafting / developmental part of the organization since Collins was also a first round pick. If you go by career WAR per first round pick over the last decade or so the White Sox aren't looking bad. Every team has first rounders who never amount to anything. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneDog847 Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, BigHurt3515 said: Yeah I would assume Collins will be going down to get regular ABs with Castillo coming back up and AJ Reed basically takes the Alonso spot. Collins has looked like a fish out of water against MLB pitching so far. Getting him regular at bats in AAA the rest of the year isn't going to prepare him for playing in MLB in 2020. The Sox should just try to package Collins in a trade this offseason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuliusO1274 Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, GermanSoxFan said: If you go by career WAR per first round pick over the last decade or so the White Sox aren't looking bad. Every team has first rounders who never amount to anything. That is likely because Sale skews the numbers to make the Sox look better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Just now, JuliusO1274 said: That is likely because Sale skews the numbers to make the Sox look better. That's how it works for most teams. One or two guys make up the lions share of value. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Just now, OneDog847 said: Collins has looked like a fish out of water against MLB pitching so far. Getting him regular at bats in AAA the rest of the year isn't going to prepare him for playing in MLB in 2020. The Sox should just try to package Collins in a trade this offseason. Agreed. And for petes sake sign Grandal. With Grandal amd McCann they wouldn't have to worry about catcher for 3-4 seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Jack Parkman said: Agreed. And for petes sake sign Grandal. With Grandal amd McCann they wouldn't have to worry about catcher for 3-4 seasons. What is the point of signing Grandal to a big contract only to split time with McCann? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GermanSoxFan Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, JuliusO1274 said: That is likely because Sale skews the numbers to make the Sox look better. Tim Anderson, Carlos Rodon and even Gordon Beckham accumulated each more WAR than your average first rounder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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