Chicago White Sox Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Alright, with the trade deadline just over two weeks away, I figured it’s time for an official “predictions” thread. While it’s always cool to guess something right, both realistic and crazy predictions are welcome here. Here are my official predictions: LHP Aaron Bummer to the Rays for RF Jesus Sanchez & PTBNL RHP Alex Colome & cash to the Braves for LHP Luis Gohara OF Blake Rutherford to the Diamondbacks for RHP Zack Greinke & cash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 16, 2019 Author Share Posted July 16, 2019 And please flame away, as I fully expect to be ridiculed for these predictions! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 (edited) I predict they will dangle Abreu, Bummer and Colome and walk away from trade offers since they won’t get the value they want. 15 days to go. Edited July 16, 2019 by The Beast 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Deep Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 I dont think we should trade Bummer. He should be a building block for bullpen if we want to contend next year. I think you sell high on Colome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 I don't think they make any moves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 I’d be ok with the 1st 2 moves...but no way on greinkie unless you put the words “a lot” in front of cash. That’s a move to make if you’re a team thinking you’re 1 or 2 moves away from competing for a championship. That’s not the White Sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 12 minutes ago, TheFutureIsNear said: I’d be ok with the 1st 2 moves...but no way on greinkie unless you put the words “a lot” in front of cash. That’s a move to make if you’re a team thinking you’re 1 or 2 moves away from competing for a championship. That’s not the White Sox I actually think Greinke would be the perfect add. He is one of the few pitchers alive that can be great throwing 89 mph and it's because his understanding of modern technology and it's implementation. Greinke knows how to pitch better than pretty much anyone alive and maybe he could teach young guys that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 16, 2019 Author Share Posted July 16, 2019 14 minutes ago, TheFutureIsNear said: I’d be ok with the 1st 2 moves...but no way on greinkie unless you put the words “a lot” in front of cash. That’s a move to make if you’re a team thinking you’re 1 or 2 moves away from competing for a championship. That’s not the White Sox Greinke just seems like such a White Sox move IMO. I’m not sure I would like that trade either (mostly because of his age, velocity drop, & personality concerns), but I could totally see the Sox adding him if they were to get enough cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said: Alright, with the trade deadline just over two weeks away, I figured it’s time for an official “predictions” thread. While it’s always cool to guess something right, both realistic and crazy predictions are welcome here. Here are my official predictions: LHP Aaron Bummer to the Rays for RF Jesus Sanchez & PTBNL RHP Alex Colome & cash to the Braves for LHP Luis Gohara OF Blake Rutherford to the Diamondbacks for RHP Zack Greinke & cash I love all three of those. RHP Alex Colome and LHP Aaron Bummer to the Dodgers for RHP Dustin May and RHP Josiah Gray That's all I predict. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Greinke is very much a White Sox move and the Sox would gladly and likely pay more than Rutherford. Right now, the Sox have 6 major league pitchers: Giolito, Lopez, Cease, Bummer Fry, Colome. That's 1/2 of a staff, some of those aren't proven, and they have nothing healthy in AAA nor anyone near ready in AA. They need to trade any player under short term control to bring young pitching in here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Colome and Fry to Boston for RHP Tanner Houck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, GreenSox said: Greinke is very much a White Sox move and the Sox would gladly and likely pay more than Rutherford. Right now, the Sox have 6 major league pitchers: Giolito, Lopez, Cease, Bummer Fry, Colome. That's 1/2 of a staff, some of those aren't proven, and they have nothing healthy in AAA nor anyone near ready in AA. They need to trade any player under short term control to bring young pitching in here. Greinke is not going to cost "more than Rutherford" given his contract obligations and the DBacks current position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said: Alright, with the trade deadline just over two weeks away, I figured it’s time for an official “predictions” thread. While it’s always cool to guess something right, both realistic and crazy predictions are welcome here. Here are my official predictions: LHP Aaron Bummer to the Rays for RF Jesus Sanchez & PTBNL RHP Alex Colome & cash to the Braves for LHP Luis Gohara OF Blake Rutherford to the Diamondbacks for RHP Zack Greinke & cash I think the most unrealistic of any of those is that the White Sox would send cash to anyone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said: I love all three of those. RHP Alex Colome and LHP Aaron Bummer to the Dodgers for RHP Dustin May and RHP Josiah Gray That's all I predict. I keep seeing May’s name mentioned, but why would the Dodgers give up a top 25 pitching prospect for relievers? Maybe if it was for Felipe Vazquez and his strikeout ability. Edited July 16, 2019 by fathom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 52 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Greinke just seems like such a White Sox move IMO. I’m not sure I would like that trade either (mostly because of his age, velocity drop, & personality concerns), but I could totally see the Sox adding him if they were to get enough cash. Not arguing that it def would be a White Sox/KW move to get a guy like Greinkie when it’s slightly too late Im just looking at it from the perspective that I don’t think the team will be close to competing for a championship run next season. So you’d be counting on a 37 year old Greinkie to be a major part of a playoff run in 2021. Not crazy given how he pitches, just not something I’d count on. I do agree that adding a reliable vet arm is a good idea, but 2.5 years at 60+ mil for a guy to be a very good inning eater/hopefully mentor? I just don’t see that as the best option. But also not my $... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 (edited) The way Hawk talked about Greinke's contract makes me feel there is no way the White Sox ever acquire him when he is playing under its terms. I'm sure he wasn't the only White Sox guy to think it. Edited July 16, 2019 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 (edited) I like all of these ideas a lot. I have no idea how realistic any of them are. Going into a year with: Grienke - Giolito - Kopech - Cease - Wheeler/Wood type signing / Rodon - Dunning - Lopez - Gohara would probably work. Jesus Sanchez could probably take over right by next year and now your looking at rebuilding a bullpen instead of a rotation which is a lot easier to pull off. Edited July 16, 2019 by mqr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: The way Hawk talked about Greinke's contract makes me feel there is no way the White Sox ever acquire him when he is playing under its terms. I'm sure he wasn't the only White Sox guy to think it. I don’t recall this? Can you expand on this? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 (edited) 38 minutes ago, TheFutureIsNear said: Not arguing that it def would be a White Sox/KW move to get a guy like Greinkie when it’s slightly too late Im just looking at it from the perspective that I don’t think the team will be close to competing for a championship run next season. So you’d be counting on a 37 year old Greinkie to be a major part of a playoff run in 2021. Not crazy given how he pitches, just not something I’d count on. I do agree that adding a reliable vet arm is a good idea, but 2.5 years at 60+ mil for a guy to be a very good inning eater/hopefully mentor? I just don’t see that as the best option. But also not my $... How is it too late to get Greinke? How could Greinke ever classify as an inning eater? He's a top 10 pitcher in baseball who has shown the ability to pitch and succeed at 90 MPH. Edited July 16, 2019 by Look at Ray Ray Run Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 3 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: Alright, with the trade deadline just over two weeks away, I figured it’s time for an official “predictions” thread. While it’s always cool to guess something right, both realistic and crazy predictions are welcome here. Here are my official predictions: LHP Aaron Bummer to the Rays for RF Jesus Sanchez & PTBNL RHP Alex Colome & cash to the Braves for LHP Luis Gohara OF Blake Rutherford to the Diamondbacks for RHP Zack Greinke & cash I like these. They all seem like nice returns for the Sox, which means they may not be realistic, but I dig it. Greinke is an intersting one for sure. Pretty sure he's stated that he hates pitching at the Cell when he was on the Royals - not sure what his NTC looks like, but something to keep in mind. Getting Gohara would be nice, but he hasn't pitched all year with a shoulder surgery. A bit scary, but he would be a nice option for the back of the rotation next season and gives us a much needed LH SP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 46 minutes ago, Moan4Yoan said: I don’t recall this? Can you expand on this? Thanks. Hawk must have said 100 times Greinke's contract was one of the dumbest in history. I'm sure JR agrees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Just now, ChiSox59 said: I like these. They all seem like nice returns for the Sox, which means they may not be realistic, but I dig it. Greinke is an intersting one for sure. Pretty sure he's stated that he hates pitching at the Cell when he was on the Royals - not sure what his NTC looks like, but something to keep in mind. Getting Gohara would be nice, but he hasn't pitched all year with a shoulder surgery. A bit scary, but he would be a nice option for the back of the rotation next season and gives us a much needed LH SP. The Sox aren't on his NTC Os , Sawx, Reds, Rockies, Tigers, LA x 2, Twins, Yankees, As, Phillies, Padres, Giants, Cards, Jays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perfect Vision Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Continue the trend of trading relievers to the Brewers....Colome for Trent Grisham. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: Hawk must have said 100 times Greinke's contract was one of the dumbest in history. I'm sure JR agrees. Hawk being aggressively wrong? Whoda thunk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 22 minutes ago, mqr said: Hawk being aggressively wrong? Whoda thunk Greinke needs more TWTW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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