Sox80 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Its wrong because that's just not how baseball drafts work for the vast majority of MLB teams. Teams dont find 1-2 good players every year. If they did, everytime would be good and filled with home grown talent. Youd be able to build an entire timely nearly every 5 years from just drafting and youd never have to rebuild. When you look at it that way I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 They paper promoted him?!?!? This organization truly is a clown college. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sox80 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Its wrong because that's just not how baseball drafts work for the vast majority of MLB teams. Teams dont find 1-2 good players every year. If they did, everytime would be good and filled with home grown talent. Youd be able to build an entire timely nearly every 5 years from just drafting and youd never have to rebuild. I still think the sox have Room to improve in their scouting , drafting and developing. I don't believe it's as terrible as some people believe on here. I think it's getting better hopefully continues to get even better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Wow that's great. Amazing. And what I take away is that 4 out of 9 years he didn't find a single big leaguer and he was exploiting the draft back then making it much easier to find talent late. Man that 2011 draft before he left for the cubs was incredible though. Thankfully he didnt go to the north side one year earlier. Edited July 24, 2019 by Look at Ray Ray Run Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Eh competition at the top is good for business. Until it becomes counter productive, back stabbing, throat cutting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 16 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: It probably is. Amateur scouting director is a job for a single person with no outside interests. I think Nick has a family. He at least gets to go home more often now. Yeah I’m not sure people who think it’s a “firing” realize how shitty of a job am scouting actually is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: Until it becomes counter productive, back stabbing, throat cutting. When that happens they get promoted to asst GM. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 30 minutes ago, Thomas_Ventura_Roberts said: Sox announce that team has promoted Nick Hostetler to special assistant to the general manager, with a particular focus on major league scouting. They say they'll will work quickly to fill his previous role of director of amateur scouting. God knows they need some kind of help in pro scouting unless you think guys like Keppinger, Dunn, LaRoche, Shark, Alonso, Nova, Santana and so on were "hits." ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Just now, Harold's Leg Lift said: When that happens they get promoted to asst GM. I heard the Blue Jays are interested in Nick... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said: I heard the Blue Jays are interested in Nick... No they're not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: No they're not. better promote him just in case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 20 minutes ago, Sox80 said: I still think the sox have Room to improve in their scouting , drafting and developing. I don't believe it's as terrible as some people believe on here. I think it's getting better hopefully continues to get even better. This is where I'm at. Its vastly better than it was before, but it's not where it was in the late 80's and early 90's. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 1 minute ago, chitownsportsfan said: better promote him just in case. They promoted him to get him the hell out of the scouting department. They're too chicken shit to get him out of the building because they're more worried about public perception than they are about getting it right. It's a joke. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas_Ventura_Roberts Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 I would wait to see what the explanation is before jumping to conclusions. Nick had said there were 3 regional directors who would eventually be scouting directors, and maybe the Sox wanted to promote one of those guys into Nick's position so as not to lose him. In addition, maybe Hahn thinks he needs to have someone who can thoroughly do a good job of analyzing minor league players on all teams, including the White Sox's own, so that we can maximize trades consistently instead of trading the wrong players either coming or going. On the other hand, Kenny Williams wanted to go with the athletic shortstop this year, and this could be an internal disagreement about the direction of minor league scouting in general. I'm guessing that is less likely; but until we know who is the new scouting director and how they describe Nick's new duties, I don't know how to get a feel for what actually is happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: They promoted him to get him the hell out of the scouting department. They're too chicken shit to get him out of the building because they're more worried about public perception than they are about getting it right. It's a joke. it certainly appears that way. if Gar is given a new title before camp hits he can join in on the ping pong and fifa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 The only outcome I’d care about is if they hire externally, otherwise who cares. I don’t think their drafts have been awful, but considering positioning they are subpar, and 2016 strategy was the most trash thing ever. But, yes, as Sox and bulls fan expectations go, they could have gone worse. And that’s good enough for some. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 Funny enough this was by far my favorite draft of his. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Thomas_Ventura_Roberts said: Sox announce that team has promoted Nick Hostetler to special assistant to the general manager, with a particular focus on major league scouting. They say they'll will work quickly to fill his previous role of director of amateur scouting. Pro scouting has been a major weakness for the org for a very long time, I like the idea of the Sox putting Hostetler there. Hopefully they go outside the org to replace him as Dir. of Amateur scouting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 Did the Sox even have someone officially running pro scouting beforehand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 1 minute ago, bmags said: Funny enough this was by far my favorite draft of his. Because it was different from "his" other drafts? I wonder why........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, Joshua Strong said: Did the Sox even have someone officially running pro scouting beforehand? Helen Keller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 7 minutes ago, Joshua Strong said: Did the Sox even have someone officially running pro scouting beforehand? Yeah, there was no one on the site with the title and I don’t remember Hahn or anyone else from the FO mentioning someone handling that responsibility Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince34 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 15 minutes ago, Joshua Strong said: Pro scouting has been a major weakness for the org for a very long time, I like the idea of the Sox putting Hostetler there. Hopefully they go outside the org to replace him as Dir. of Amateur scouting. Completely agree. Hire someone outside the organization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GermanSoxFan Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 In a perfect world the Sox would poach someone from the Rays. Best org in baseball IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 15 minutes ago, Joshua Strong said: Yeah, there was no one on the site with the title and I don’t remember Hahn or anyone else from the FO mentioning someone handling that responsibility Ugh, this caused me to look across a few teams front office pages. The way the Sox is organized and titles is uhh, noticeable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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