SoxAce Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 Feel for Timmy. Dude clearly isn't 100% yet is battling out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 Just now, Richie said: Cease must get to 2 strikes on something like 60-70% of the hitters he faces before losing a startling amount of them. I would be interested in any numbers on this. He has been horrific pitching with two strikes on batters. It's been a little better today thus far. However, you can clearly see why his pitch count is always jacked up, going back to the minors. Even when he gets guys out after getting ahead, the amount of foul balls he throws is quite something. Same problem with López despite throwing as hard as he does... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Richie said: Cease must get to 2 strikes on something like 60-70% of the hitters he faces before losing a startling amount of them. I would be interested in any numbers on this. He has been horrific pitching with two strikes on batters. It's been a little better today thus far. However, you can clearly see why his pitch count is always jacked up, going back to the minors. Even when he gets guys out after getting ahead, the amount of foul balls he throws is quite something. Can't be worse with that than lopez has been the bulk of the year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 Wheeler is shredding. At least Cease looks good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GermanSoxFan Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 Just now, Richie said: Cease must get to 2 strikes on something like 60-70% of the hitters he faces before losing a startling amount of them. I would be interested in any numbers on this. He has been horrific pitching with two strikes on batters. It's been a little better today thus far. However, you can clearly see why his pitch count is always jacked up, going back to the minors. Even when he gets guys out after getting ahead, the amount of foul balls he throws is quite something. That was the knock on Quintana early on and he was fine, same for DeGrom and Scherzer earlier in their careers. Not saying that he will have their careers, but I am not exactly worried yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 Just now, Richie said: Cease must get to 2 strikes on something like 60-70% of the hitters he faces before losing a startling amount of them. I would be interested in any numbers on this. He has been horrific pitching with two strikes on batters. It's been a little better today thus far. However, you can clearly see why his pitch count is always jacked up, going back to the minors. Even when he gets guys out after getting ahead, the amount of foul balls he throws is quite something. Lopez has the same problem at times. If a MLB hitter knows a fastball is coming he can foul it off, even at the velocities Lopez and Cease reach. They both need to continue to refine their command on off speed pitches. Chris Sale's wipeout slider is probably the best example recently of how a pitcher can finish off a hitter. It has to be in the zone and out of the zone. Cease and Lopez too often are never in the zone with their offspeed stuff and it's just a show me pitch. Maybe in AA Cease was getting more chases but he's not in AAA and MLB so far. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 Don’t cancel the postgame show, Wheeler’s earning another $25 million by padding his stats against this AAAA lineup... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 9 minutes ago, gusguyman said: Poor Mets. How can a team with this much pitching be this bad? Reminds of our 2016, except with an even more incompetent front office and ownership group. They're not that bad. They're 4.5 games out of the WC hunt. Their pitching also hasn't been great. Thor's ERA is over 4.50. Also, in 2016... we had Sale and Q. About it. Rodon got going in the 2nd half, but Sale also regressed during that period. After that, it was a clown show. Latos, Shields, Danks, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted August 1, 2019 Author Share Posted August 1, 2019 1 minute ago, caulfield12 said: They’re almost back in the WC hunt...look at the standings. Unfortunately, after next series, their schedule turns really difficult. White Sox outscored 100-55 during this 4-15 stretch since ASB. Abreu 0 for his last 31. I'll preface this by saying that I have always really liked Abreu, so it saddens me to say that he is looking like Jermaine Dye when he just regressed very quickly in that last half season with the Sox. I hope I am wrong, but Abreu is just looking awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, GermanSoxFan said: That was the knock on Quintana early on and he was fine, same for DeGrom and Scherzer earlier in their careers. Not saying that he will have their careers, but I am not exactly worried yet. Yeah, me neither. Just making observations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 6 minutes ago, SoxAce said: Feel for Timmy. Dude clearly isn't 100% yet is battling out there. Poor guy’s great average from first half is going to plummet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, mqr said: Can't be worse with that than lopez has been the bulk of the year I think it's comparable. However, yes... Lopez has been equally as frustrating and over a longer period of time. He's also a veteran, so it's worse. Lately, he's been pretty pleasant to watch. We'll see if that continues. Not to jinx it, but Cease just wrapped up another quick inning 2nd time through the top. Looking solid. 6 outs from a real smooth QS. Perhaps this will be the start when he puts it together start-to-finish? Edited August 1, 2019 by Richie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 9 minutes ago, fathom said: Poor guy’s great average from first half is going to plummet I've got a bet with a Twins fan at over .275. He'd need to be dreadful for the next two months to drop that far, but..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 Reed is perpetually down 0-2 in the count. They should just have him start his AB's that way. Save time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 Reed is just stealing at bats from Collins or Mercedes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GermanSoxFan Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 I didn‘t mind taking a chance on Reed, but he makes Yonder look competent 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, GermanSoxFan said: I didn‘t mind taking a chance on Reed, but he makes Yonder look competent This. I still agree with the decision, but I think it's time to admit it didn't work out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, GermanSoxFan said: I didn‘t mind taking a chance on Reed, but he makes Yonder look competent The Sox must have a bottom 5 MLB scouting staff. The cannot access either their own guys or guys like Reed with any degree of accuracy. In theory Reed was a smart pickup in a tank year. In reality the Astros scouted him properly and the Sox are sleeping on guys already in the org that are better than Reed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 Are we going to hear Stone and the Sox blame the struggles on Yoan being out and him being the heart and soul? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strike27 Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 strike 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 Goins is slowly taking Yolmer's utility job next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 (edited) Damn Leury! Edited August 1, 2019 by SoxAce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GermanSoxFan Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, SoxAce said: Goins is slowly taking Yolmer's utility job next season. The utility job is Leury‘s to lose. Sanchez should be an easy non-tender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 Just now, GermanSoxFan said: The utility job is Leury‘s to lose. Sanchez should be an easy non-tender. Leury might be auditioning for RF next season IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GermanSoxFan Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, SoxAce said: Goins is slowly taking Yolmer's utility job next season. If Leury is the opening day starter in RF next year something has gone terribly wrong 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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