fathom Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 4 minutes ago, GermanSoxFan said: I can't wait until you bring that up in an unrelated context as a reason why Free Agent X didn't sign here. ? Somehow we will learn he is best friends with G. Cole 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 There goes all of our hopes of signing a Venezuelan player...better bring Ozzie back to repair the damage and pacify Gregster in case Abreu isn’t on the team in 2020. Otherwise, we’ll be hearing a lot about parking and concession pricing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, Tony said: Yeah, honestly I don’t put a ton of blame on the Sale/LaRoche/Eaton stuff aside from the players, and maybe the coaching staff. But in terms of player mistreatment, the Sox are pretty clean in that regard. And that only covers like half of the psychopaths on that team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 22 minutes ago, Tony said: Yeah, honestly I don’t put a ton of blame on the Sale/LaRoche/Eaton stuff aside from the players, and maybe the coaching staff. But in terms of player mistreatment, the Sox are pretty clean in that regard. Yeah, the sox are likely too accommodating if anything. Escobar can eat dirt. He's a trash player now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 I suspect that sometimes stuff like this happens because of miscommunications with the agent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Acquiring Escobar appeared weird from the start. He's awful but you'd think he could play utility for a contender since he's good glove. Nice tribute video there; he must be a good guy if they made that for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 I believe him. The Sox never gave me a shot in the show. He should have gotten a call up. The guy batted leadoff for a champion team so he expected a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschmaranz Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 3 hours ago, Dick Allen said: Yes, the truth is probably somewhere in the middle, The only thing to hav some concern is Escobar has been in baseball for a long time. He knows a lot of players. I do not have any clue who his friends are, but if the Sox want to sign one someday, and the money is essentially the same , they may use this to pick another team. You saying Escobar is gonna Scottie Pippen us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 I was more interested when I misread the headline thinking it was Pablo getting released from jail. Hey kid, sign here, we'll give you this and that and this too . . . Then stuff changes. Maybe if the team was winning. Maybe if X gets hurt, or not hurt. I'm wondering if they promised to trade him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 17 minutes ago, Texsox said: I was more interested when I misread the headline thinking it was Pablo getting released from jail. Hey kid, sign here, we'll give you this and that and this too . . . Then stuff changes. Maybe if the team was winning. Maybe if X gets hurt, or not hurt. I'm wondering if they promised to trade him. That’s not so easy to pull off when he’s been buried in Medellin for 26 years... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 11 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: That’s not so easy to pull off when he’s been buried in Medellin for 26 years... You believe that story? Lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 Esco was a solid near 600 ops and well qualified to anchor the Sox lineup for years to come. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted August 3, 2019 Author Share Posted August 3, 2019 15 hours ago, greg775 said: Acquiring Escobar appeared weird from the start. He's awful but you'd think he could play utility for a contender since he's good glove. Nice tribute video there; he must be a good guy if they made that for him. Charlotte needs these types of players too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 Another possible explanation for this is that Ryan Goins getting an apparently permanent call-up is what led Escobar to believe he was lied to. May have been given the impression that if injuries created a need for a veteran IF to get called up, it would be him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrathofhahn Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 2 hours ago, Jake said: Another possible explanation for this is that Ryan Goins getting an apparently permanent call-up is what led Escobar to believe he was lied to. May have been given the impression that if injuries created a need for a veteran IF to get called up, it would be him. Bingo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 https://amp.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/for-petes-sake/article233524952.html Despite his release, Escobar is tied for fifth in the International League in doubles (28), tied for fourth in RBIs (70) and was slashing .286/.343/.444 for the Knights. Escobar perhaps was upset when the White Sox had a roster opening and recalled another former Royals infielder instead of Escobar. Ryan Goins, who was released by the Royals earlier this season, was brought up from Charlotte on July 17. Goins is batting .271 with two homers, four doubles and nine walks in 16 games with the White Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Amazing how these players fall from glory in such a short time. There must be more to him than his play since he was released by the Orioles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 10 minutes ago, kitekrazy said: Amazing how these players fall from glory in such a short time. There must be more to him than his play since he was released by the Orioles. He has been the subject of some allegations in the past from his now ex-wife (I don't think it was domestic violence but from what I remember, it certainly didn't make him come off in a positive light), but he also was just never good to begin with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, kitekrazy said: Amazing how these players fall from glory in such a short time. There must be more to him than his play since he was released by the Orioles. He sucked even when he was 'good'. Whopping .615 OPS and .5 bWAR the year he was an all star and the Royals won the chip Edited August 5, 2019 by mqr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 4 hours ago, Texsox said: https://amp.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/for-petes-sake/article233524952.html Despite his release, Escobar is tied for fifth in the International League in doubles (28), tied for fourth in RBIs (70) and was slashing .286/.343/.444 for the Knights. Escobar perhaps was upset when the White Sox had a roster opening and recalled another former Royals infielder instead of Escobar. Ryan Goins, who was released by the Royals earlier this season, was brought up from Charlotte on July 17. Goins is batting .271 with two homers, four doubles and nine walks in 16 games with the White Sox. Goins is our fifth most valuable position player/hitter (by fWAR) out of 45 who have appeared (granted, most pitchers just had a few at-bats). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Goins is 31 with a .618 career OPS. What you are seeing now is not real. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 On 3/22/2019 at 1:07 PM, bmags said: Remember this guys: https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/cabreev01.shtml This aged well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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