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5 minutes ago, fathom said:

91 was literally right down the plate 

All 91 mph fastballs are not created equal. A 91 mph fastball with elite spin can still be incredibly effective. 

C'mon Fathom you know better than that. It isn't likely for a pitcher to even reach the majors throwing in the low 90s without elite spin. 

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2 minutes ago, GermanSoxFan said:

Check his fangraphs pitch values, he can‘t hit fastballs anymore. He is done, but I am afraid the Sox think differently.

No, I agree with you. I don't want Abreu back in 2020 at this point. 

The only reason to bring him back is on a 1 year deal as a bench bat. 

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1 minute ago, Jack Parkman said:

No, I agree with you. I don't want Abreu back in 2020 at this point. 

The only reason to bring him back is on a 1 year deal as a bench bat. 

The problem isthat there aren’t any real alternatives on the market unless you convince Castellanos with some extra money to buy himself a 1B mitt.

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7 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said:

All 91 mph fastballs are not created equal. A 91 mph fastball with elite spin can still be incredibly effective. 

C'mon Fathom you know better than that. It isn't likely for a pitcher to even reach the majors throwing in the low 90s without elite spin. 

His spin rate is below average 

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3 minutes ago, fathom said:

His spin rate is below average 

That is an important piece of information. Now you can continue discussing how Abreu is over the hill now. Velocity without spin rate data is useless at this point. 

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Just now, Kyyle23 said:

At one point in his career, Jon Jay was considered to be fast, right?   I know he is over 30 and stuff but damn he looks so damn slow now

I do think he’s nowhere near 100 pct with his injury.  But yes, he runs in quicksand 

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