Jack Parkman Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 On 8/11/2019 at 8:31 PM, fathom said: Yeah I said this the other day but they can’t just rely on Robert/Madrigal/Yoan fixing this. This is truly awful watching so many of these guys suck. Also, I really hope they aren’t counting on McCann being a starter next year. Expand Eloy is going to get better too, but they're not winning jack shit with only 3 or 4 power threats in the lineup. Most good lineups have 7+ hitters that can take you deep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GermanSoxFan Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 On 8/11/2019 at 8:31 PM, fathom said: Yeah I said this the other day but they can’t just rely on Robert/Madrigal/Yoan fixing this. This is truly awful watching so many of these guys suck. Also, I really hope they aren’t counting on McCann being a starter next year. Expand I think not having McCann play 150 games would help. I think upgrading the catcher position starts by signing a competent back up that can be relied on for 65ish games. RF/DH/1B are more pressing needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 On 8/11/2019 at 8:36 PM, GermanSoxFan said: I think not having McCann play 150 games would help. I think upgrading the catcher position starts by signing a competent back up that can be relied on for 65ish games. RF/DH/1B are more pressing needs. Expand McCann is the backup. They need a starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 On 8/11/2019 at 8:33 PM, Sox80 said: If players don't listen to the hitting coach. They either need to be benched or get a new hitting coach it's really that simple I think. I'm tired of high strike outs and terrible at bats. They always have a pathetic approach at the plate!! Expand There needs to be a change of hitting coach AND significant lineup upgrades. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 On 8/11/2019 at 8:36 PM, GermanSoxFan said: I think not having McCann play 150 games would help. I think upgrading the catcher position starts by signing a competent back up that can be relied on for 65ish games. RF/DH/1B are more pressing needs. Expand Abreu is going to be back, so that’s one of the positions. I have a feeling they trade for Mazara for RF. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GermanSoxFan Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 On 8/11/2019 at 8:37 PM, Jack Parkman said: McCann is the backup. They need a starter. Expand Eh, if you look at catcher production league wide you can do just fine with a .720ish OPS catcher.Grandal would be a nice addition though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 (edited) On 8/11/2019 at 8:37 PM, Jack Parkman said: McCann is the backup. They need a starter. Expand Agreed. McCann’s numbers are falling off. You could attribute this to being tired with too much playing time but you could also attribute it to being regression. I’d rather not take the chance that it’s regression and sign Grandal with McCann as his backup. Edited August 11, 2019 by Moan4Yoan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 (edited) On 8/11/2019 at 8:39 PM, Moan4Yoan said: Agreed. McCann’s numbers are falling off. You could attribute this to being tired with too much playing time but you could also attribute it to being regression. I’d rather not take the chance that it’s regression and sign Grandal with McCann as his backup. Expand I'm with you. What do you do if Grandal stays in Milwaukee though? Edited August 11, 2019 by Jack Parkman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 (edited) On 8/11/2019 at 8:38 PM, GermanSoxFan said: Eh, if you look at catcher production league wide you can do just fine with a .720ish OPS catcher.Grandal would be a nice addition though. Expand True, but my fear is that this year is a fluke and he falls back to his Tigers offense next year. Edited August 11, 2019 by Moan4Yoan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 On 8/11/2019 at 8:40 PM, Moan4Yoan said: True, but my fear is that this year is a fluke and he falls back to his Tigers offense next year. Expand Mine too, and if it isn't you just trade him next July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 On 8/11/2019 at 8:40 PM, Jack Parkman said: I'm with you. What do you do if Grandal stays in Milwaukee though? Expand Then we are stuck with McCann and Collins behind the plate. There isn’t another catcher like Grandal available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Free Mercedes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GermanSoxFan Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 On 8/11/2019 at 8:40 PM, Moan4Yoan said: True, but my fear is that this year is a fluke and he falls back to his Tigers offense next year. Expand My optimism on McCann isn‘t based entirely on the results of his first half, but on the fact that he made tangible adjustments in the batters box. He isn’t using his lower half anymore which I attribute to being played into the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 2-0 and Yolmer takes a weak swing and hits a lazy fly ball to LF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 On 8/11/2019 at 8:43 PM, fathom said: Free Mercedes Expand Really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GermanSoxFan Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 On 8/11/2019 at 8:43 PM, fathom said: Free Mercedes Expand The fact that Skole was hitting 6th in Charlotte and has been batting cleanup at the big league level is just comical. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 (edited) On 8/11/2019 at 8:38 PM, fathom said: Abreu is going to be back, so that’s one of the positions. I have a feeling they trade for Mazara for RF. Expand What would Mazara cost, realistically? He's a weird case. He's going to be 25 next year but only has 2 seasons of control. Edited August 11, 2019 by Jack Parkman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moan4Yoan Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 Is there a legitimate reason the Sox haven’t called up Yermin and Mendick yet? Are they playing the control game with these two guys as well? They aren’t getting any younger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GermanSoxFan Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 On 8/11/2019 at 8:45 PM, fathom said: 2-0 and Yolmer takes a weak swing and hits a lazy fly ball to LF Expand Getting mad about Yolmer is like getting mad at the weather. What’s the point, he is just a placeholder. Kudos to him though for having an alarming K-rate for a guy with three homers this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 On 8/11/2019 at 8:46 PM, GermanSoxFan said: The fact that Skole was hitting 6th in Charlotte and has been batting cleanup at the big league level is just comical. Expand It’s just wasting at bats you could be giving to players to see what you have in them. I think it goes back to their obsession with having another lefty in the lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 On 8/11/2019 at 8:47 PM, Moan4Yoan said: Is there a legitimate reason the Sox haven’t called up Yermin and Mendick yet? Are they playing the control game with these two guys as well? They aren’t getting any younger. Expand The only thing that makes sense is that they don't think they're even worth a look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 On 8/11/2019 at 8:47 PM, GermanSoxFan said: Getting mad about Yolmer is like getting mad at the weather. What’s the point, he is just a placeholder. Kudos to him though for having an alarming K-rate for a guy with three homers this season. Expand It’s just symptomatic of the terrible approach everyone in this organization seems to have. It’s the most antiquated approach offensively and it’s why they’re so bad every year now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 On 8/11/2019 at 8:48 PM, fathom said: It’s just wasting at bats you could be giving to players to see what you have in them. I think it goes back to their obsession with having another lefty in the lineup. Expand As bad as Reed was, I would've rather it been him getting the AB than Skole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 On 8/11/2019 at 8:49 PM, Jack Parkman said: The only thing that makes sense is that they don't think they're even worth a look. Expand And Skole is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GermanSoxFan Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 On 8/11/2019 at 8:50 PM, fathom said: It’s just symptomatic of the terrible approach everyone in this organization seems to have. It’s the most antiquated approach offensively and it’s why they’re so bad every year now. Expand The Sox preaching about opposite field hitting is really antiquated. Can’t remember the last time someone hit one out by pulling an inside fastball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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