fathom Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Balta1701 said: If that was the case (it wasn't), the fact that they knew they needed to fill those positions and then did such an awful job of filling them does not raise one's confidence. Well if they landed Manny, they were likely to add Joc also. I think once they missed on Manny, they just threw in the towel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Safe to say Ryan Goins isn't an option ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Wanne said: Safe to say Ryan Goins isn't an option ? Badly misplay one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 When your RFs and DHs have combined for -5 fWAR, even plugging in seemingly mediocre FAs like Puig and Dickerson at those two positions would result in a massive upgrade next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 If they get a 2 WAR RF that's like a 4.5 WAR upgrade due to the negatives there this year lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 1 hour ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: When your RFs and DHs have combined for -5 fWAR, even plugging in seemingly mediocre FAs like Puig and Dickerson at those two positions would result in a massive upgrade next season. Yeah it really doesn't take much for a huge upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 I missed today's game, but I'm thinking Ryan Goins is not a good option for RF next year? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted September 5, 2019 Author Share Posted September 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, wegner said: I missed today's game, but I'm thinking Ryan Goins is not a good option for RF next year? Idk whether to give this post a laugh or love emoji. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, wegner said: I missed today's game, but I'm thinking Ryan Goins is not a good option for RF next year? it was a fairly routine fly ball that he ran in on and went over his head scoring a run. Indians only hit in the game. In his defense...he's never played there...but still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted September 5, 2019 Author Share Posted September 5, 2019 2 hours ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: When your RFs and DHs have combined for -5 fWAR, even plugging in seemingly mediocre FAs like Puig and Dickerson at those two positions would result in a massive upgrade next season. ^^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, Wanne said: it was a fairly routine fly ball that he ran in on and went over his head scoring a run. Indians only hit in the game. In his defense...he's never played there...but still. Thanks. I did not see the play. But I did see the game last night and honestly the way Leury was playing the OF he might have done the same thing. I'm sure Goins feels pretty bad about it. Reminds me of my little league career...I was a 3rd baseman but sometimes they would throw me in the outfield and I once came in on a fly ball that was actually a home run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 6 hours ago, fathom said: these crazy, stupid stats for our DH and RF positions actually make me more optimistic. It’s clear where the changes need to be made in order to maximize production. Yup, fix those spots and we should have a stellar offense in the near term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Yup, fix those spots and we should have a stellar offense in the near term. Those spots are even worse than black holes currently. Whatever that may be. But yeah, it's good to know whoever they add will be an upgrade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 7 hours ago, ChiSox59 said: Lol, wat? Your "...but Hahn said otherwise" comment pretty clearly states you felt he should have said something else. I am welcome to stick up for the guy if I want. Hahn's record on the field is putrid as a GM, but he is the guy that has built what appears to be one of the best young cores in baseball. I am willing to be patient and allow the man a little more time to put finishing touches on the roster. It was pretty obvious to me that 2019 was a year too early. This season didn't change anything for me, other than being 1 year closer to primetime. If this offseason goes awry, I will lose said patience. I agree with you. A few nice moves and this roster will be very good. Actually...I'm more concerned with the manager and his band of coaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnin' two Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 Today, Marcel Ozuna said that it is his priority to stay with the Cardinals and that it is his agents job to make it happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 1 hour ago, turnin' two said: Today, Marcel Ozuna said that it is his priority to stay with the Cardinals and that it is his agents job to make it happen. What do you expect him to say? St. Louis is boring and I want out? He's going to get a lot of offers this winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 57 minutes ago, BackDoorBreach said: What do you expect him to say? St. Louis is boring and I want out? He's going to get a lot of offers this winter. Some version of what Nova said is the standard - that he would be happy to be there next year. That's different from "my agent's job is to make me be here next year" - the latter makes it sound like you're willing to take a discount to play there and unwilling to play elsewhere even if you get slightly better offers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Balta1701 said: Some version of what Nova said is the standard - that he would be happy to be there next year. That's different from "my agent's job is to make me be here next year" - the latter makes it sound like you're willing to take a discount to play there and unwilling to play elsewhere even if you get slightly better offers. I just don't put stock into in season soundbites especially when your team is starting to run away with the division. StL is a great franchise but are also somewhat "risk averse". He is also the best OF available this off season, which means he's going to get paid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 6 hours ago, BackDoorBreach said: What do you expect him to say? St. Louis is boring and I want out? He's going to get a lot of offers this winter. He should be within our reach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 I guess this was deleted right after it got posted, was probably supposed to be a DM. Here is the problem, there isn't one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 1 minute ago, BackDoorBreach said: I guess this was deleted right after it got posted, was probably supposed to be a DM. Here is the problem, there isn't one. I don't understand how one tweets what was supposed to be a DM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 1 minute ago, ChiSox59 said: I don't understand how one tweets what was supposed to be a DM. I don't have a Twitter but clearly it wasn't supposed to have been posted. Not like its a mystery the Sox need that though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 1 minute ago, BackDoorBreach said: I don't have a Twitter but clearly it wasn't supposed to have been posted. Not like its a mystery the Sox need that though. Yah....tweets and DMs are in completely different parts of the App. It would be tough to tweet what was supposed to a DM on accident - especiialy as someone who uses Twitter regularly like Gregor. That being said...yah. Not exactly enlightening info. I suppose Calhoun would fit that description if his option isn't picked up. But gross. Dickerson I guess...but he isn't really a natural RF. Trade route makes much more sense and the "it'll also be a FA, most likely" isn't the most definitive comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: I don't understand how one tweets what was supposed to be a DM. Right. "A left-handed hitting RF" clearly means JDM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 I'd rather have them get a trade done but we don't exactly have the deepest farm. Which leads me to believe it's going to be someone old and cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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