Dominikk85 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 He has been quite solid so far. Just 15% Ks vs a healthy 12% walks hitting .278/.384/.449. The power hasn't been amazing with 6 homers (about 18 HR pace) but it was his first season and he probably was tired from a long college season. How do you like his first season? I think it was pretty solid. He didn't set the world on fire right away but really had no weakness in his profile, at least at those low levels which didn't challenge him. Regarding the power longenhagen did say that he doesn't have huge raw pop like a Pete Alonso or yordan Alvarez but easily enough to hit 30 bombs. I think there is a pretty good chance that he becomes a 280/360/500 hitter with 30-35 bombs which would be very good, essentially the same as abreu but with a little less average but more walks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackDoorBreach Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 I don't put a ton of stock in draft year seasons either way tbh. I'd really like to see the power numbers go up a couple ticks next year while maintaining a solid walk rate. How was he defensively if anybody knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, BackDoorBreach said: I don't put a ton of stock in draft year seasons either way tbh. I'd really like to see the power numbers go up a couple ticks next year while maintaining a solid walk rate. How was he defensively if anybody knows? This. Edited September 6, 2019 by Jack Parkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Most important thing for me was the strikeout/walk rate, as the rest (power being the primary thing), could be attributed to being tired from college. So I'd call the first year a success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baker Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Andrew recorded a combined babip of .282 this season. That’s quite low. Hard to predict a normalized babip for him, but by comparison José Abreu lifetime babip is .329. Something similar to that would have put Vaughn’s OPS up near .900 this past season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good Guys Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 19 hours ago, [email protected] said: He has been quite solid so far. Just 15% Ks vs a healthy 12% walks hitting .278/.384/.449. The power hasn't been amazing with 6 homers (about 18 HR pace) but it was his first season and he probably was tired from a long college season. How do you like his first season? I think it was pretty solid. He didn't set the world on fire right away but really had no weakness in his profile, at least at those low levels which didn't challenge him. Regarding the power longenhagen did say that he doesn't have huge raw pop like a Pete Alonso or yordan Alvarez but easily enough to hit 30 bombs. I think there is a pretty good chance that he becomes a 280/360/500 hitter with 30-35 bombs which would be very good, essentially the same as abreu but with a little less average but more walks. How dare you compare our prized draft pick to Jose Abreu. You should apologize! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominikk85 Posted September 7, 2019 Author Share Posted September 7, 2019 10 hours ago, Baker said: Andrew recorded a combined babip of .282 this season. That’s quite low. Hard to predict a normalized babip for him, but by comparison José Abreu lifetime babip is .329. Something similar to that would have put Vaughn’s OPS up near .900 this past season. Vaughn has a quite high pull rate though which helps power but supresses BABIP. Abreu is more of an all fields hitter (39% pull) which means higher babips. I don't say vaughn will always be a 280 guy but if he stays at 45% pull his babip won't be that high. Konerko also was a flyball and pull hitter who tended to have babips in the 280s but still was a great player due to good walk rates, solid K rate and power. Will be interesting to see how vaughn develops. Will he become a konerko type hitter to maximize his power or more an all fields hitter with pop like abreu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 16 hours ago, Quin said: Most important thing for me was the strikeout/walk ?rate, as the rest (power being the primary thing), could be attributed to being tired from college. So I'd call the first year a success. Tired? Really?? It would be valid if you pointed out that the pitching is much advanced in both Low A and High A. But you think he was tired in August because of college? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 9 minutes ago, oldsox said: Tired? Really?? It would be valid if you pointed out that the pitching is much advanced in both Low A and High A. But you think he was tired in August because of college? Yes, college baseball starts in late February. They finish their year, then start playing more baseball than they ever have for 2.5 months longer. It’s pretty common they wear out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 4 hours ago, oldsox said: Tired? Really?? It would be valid if you pointed out that the pitching is much advanced in both Low A and High A. But you think he was tired in August because of college? Yah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarava Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 10 hours ago, oldsox said: Tired? Really?? It would be valid if you pointed out that the pitching is much advanced in both Low A and High A. But you think he was tired in August because of college? Remember all the complaining about Madigral a year ago...weak contact and all. What a difference a year makes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 That was a wrist injury last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Vaughn had most of the month of June off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 MLB Pipeline did a "Let's project what our top 10 might look like 1 year from now" and they had Vaughn as the #4 prospect in baseball being Franco, Rutschman, and Witt Jr. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 Soooo they chose the top international player then the top 3 draft picks. Great work as always, Jim. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetman Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 He had a nice pro debut. I'd take those numbers anytime. BB/K was outstanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominikk85 Posted September 15, 2019 Author Share Posted September 15, 2019 Rutschman's first season wasn't that impressive. He had a good k/bb rate like vaughn but only 3 HR and a 770 ops. I wonder if that is related to his illness costing him power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 11 minutes ago, Dominikk85 said: Rutschman's first season wasn't that impressive. He had a good k/bb rate like vaughn but only 3 HR and a 770 ops. I wonder if that is related to his illness costing him power. He was tired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickofypres Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 Wonder how aggressive they are with promoting him next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 15 hours ago, nickofypres said: Wonder how aggressive they are with promoting him next year. Start him at AA next April and make him get on board REAL QUICK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominikk85 Posted September 17, 2019 Author Share Posted September 17, 2019 On 9/16/2019 at 7:14 AM, ChiliIrishHammock24 said: Start him at AA next April and make him get on board REAL QUICK. I think they will start him at high A and then promote him quickly after like 20 games or so if he demolishes that level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 On 9/17/2019 at 4:27 PM, Dominikk85 said: I think they will start him at high A and then promote him quickly after like 20 games or so if he demolishes that level. That would normally be my suggestion as well, but assuming they want him up in 2020 to compete on a club pushing for the playoffs, don't even burn those 20 "confidence" games. Start him in AA, get him to AAA by the end of May, get him to the majors by July. That should be the aggressive goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarava Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 If he starts killing it next year, then they're going to play the same service time games that they played with Eloy and Robert. I'd start him at high A and move him up when he dominates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 7 hours ago, Sarava said: If he starts killing it next year, then they're going to play the same service time games that they played with Eloy and Robert. I'd start him at high A and move him up when he dominates. I don't know for certain that they will, because what the big league squad is doing might matter. There's a genuine possibility that next year the White Sox are sitting a few games over .500 in late July, Vaughn is killing the ball at AA, and our DH position is weak enough that we bring Vaughn up to try to help the big league team. I would also start him at high A next year. I do want them to be aggressive with him, but at the same time he has to earn it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Balta1701 said: I don't know for certain that they will, because what the big league squad is doing might matter. There's a genuine possibility that next year the White Sox are sitting a few games over .500 in late July, Vaughn is killing the ball at AA, and our DH position is weak enough that we bring Vaughn up to try to help the big league team. I would also start him at high A next year. I do want them to be aggressive with him, but at the same time he has to earn it. Yep. Next year the process starts to change as they should have a winning team if the plan goes well. If they are competing for a playoff spot at the end of July, he could come up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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